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    I Open carry all around fairfax and often go to gmu. Is it legal to drive and leave my gun in my car?

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    chrisco455 wrote:
    I Open carry all around fairfax and often go to gmu. Is it legal to drive and leave my gun in my car?
    Are you a student, faculty member, or staff there? Definately not, per their rules.

    If not, it is probably still not legal due to the Virginia Administrative Code section they impose. (Sorry, I forgot where I bookmarked it. Google-fu is weak & slow tonight.) There is debate on the legality of the VAC but it seems nobody wants to be the test case on carrying or having in your possession or in your vehicle.

    Lots of us are uncomfortable leaving a firearm in our vehicle, dure to the possibility of theft. YMMV.

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    skidmark wrote:
    chrisco455 wrote:
    I Open carry all around fairfax and often go to gmu. Is it legal to drive and leave my gun in my car?
    Are you a student, faculty member, or staff there? Definately not, per their rules.

    If not, it is probably still not legal due to the Virginia Administrative Code section they impose. (Sorry, I forgot where I bookmarked it. Google-fu is weak & slow tonight.) There is debate on the legality of the VAC but it seems nobody wants to be the test case on carrying or having in your possession or in your vehicle.

    Lots of us are uncomfortable leaving a firearm in our vehicle, dure to the possibility of theft. YMMV.

    stay safe.

    skidmark
    The admin code does NOT say you can't have a gun outside the building, including in a vehicle.


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    skidmark wrote:
    but it seems nobody wants to be the test case on carrying or having in your possession or in your vehicle.
    What is the worst charge GMU could hit you with if caught and not a student/staff member?

    Trespassing? (and would you have to refuse to leave after be told by the police to make that stick)?





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    fairfax1 wrote:
    What is the worst charge GMU could hit you with if caught and not a student/staff member?

    Trespassing? (and would you have to refuse to leave after be told by the police to make that stick)?
    And I think they'd have some pretty serious hoops to jump through to charge trespassing (well, they could charge anything, but you know what I mean) on public land while not breaking any laws, or even the VAC.

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    Here are the VAC listing I was able to find online:

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...g+8VAC35-50-10

    8VAC35-50-10. Scope. The policies and procedures provided herein apply to all George Mason University faculty, staff, and students, university contractors, and the general public. This chapter applies to all university facilities and grounds owned or leased.
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...g+8VAC35-60-10

    8VAC35-60-10. Definitions. The following words and terms when used in this chapter shall have the following meanings unless the context clearly indicates otherwise: "Police officer" means law-enforcement officials appointed pursuant to Article 3 (§ 15.2-1609 et seq.) of Chapter 16 and Chapter 17 (§ 15.2-1700 et seq.) of Title 15.2, Chapter 17 (§ 23-232 et seq.) of Title 23, Chapter 2 (§ 29.1-200 et seq.) of Title 29.1, and Chapter 1 (§ 52-1 et seq.) of Title 52 of the Code of Virginia and sworn federal law-enforcement officers. "University property" means any property owned, leased or controlled by George Mason University. "Weapon" means any pistol, revolver, or other weapon designed or intended to propel a missile of any kind, or any dirk, bowie knife, switchblade knife, ballistic knife, razor slingshot, spring stick, metal knucks, blackjack, or any flailing instrument consisting of two or more rigid parts connected in such manner as to allow them to swing freely, which may be known as nun chahka, nun chuck, nunchaku, shuriken, or fighting chain, or any disc, of whatever configuration, having at least two points or pointed blades that is designed to be thrown or propelled and that may be known as throwing star or oriental dart.
    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...g+8VAC35-60-30

    8VAC35-60-30. Person lawfully in charge. In addition to individuals authorized by university policy, George Mason University police officers are lawfully in charge for the purposes of forbidding entry upon or remaining upon university property while possessing or carrying weapons in violation of this prohibition.

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    My wife tells me that earlier in the week, a female GMU student was sexually assaulted at a bus stop on or near the main campus. The description of the attacker was a black male wearing an orange hoodie. GMU is not even one week into the new semester.

    The princess carries now.

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    kaiheitai17 wrote:
    My wife tells me that earlier in the week, a female GMU student was sexually assaulted at a bus stop on or near the main campus. The description of the attacker was a black male wearing an orange hoodie. GMU is not even one week into the new semester.

    The princess carries now.
    Last fall a female student was assaulted by a MWAG behind SUBII at GMU.

    EDIT: just received the following email from GMU:

    Crime Alert Sexual Assault reported to police this morning to haveoccurred between midnight Friday and 1:30am Satvicinity Lots G&H. Suspect described as black male wearing a orange hoody. Police investigating. Remember to walk in groups at night, use police escort service, to stay in lighted areas, and to report suspicious acitivity to police immediately.



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    kaiheitai17 wrote:
    The princess carries now.
    Good for her. I bet there are a growing number of college students with permits also re-evaluating their decision to be disarmed while on campus.

    Does that college carry bill in the general assembly have a chance of being introduced again this year?

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    fairfax1 wrote:
    Good for her. I bet there are a growing number of college students with permits also re-evaluating their decision to be disarmed while on campus.

    Does that college carry bill in the general assembly have a chance of being introduced again this year?
    The VCDL legislative tracking tool shows HB1656 as permitting full-time faculty; says nothing about staff or students. So I'd say the effort is scaled back but being worked.
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