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    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps

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    tsannicolas wrote:
    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?
    Leave it at home.

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.
    While traveling across state lines, the firearm must be unloaded (empty chamber, no magazine anywhere near the gun, all ammo separated from gun) and put in the trunk of the vehicle. If no trunk, then as far away from any passengers/driver as possible.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps
    It doesn't.

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    I have to travel into Maryland to visit family occasionally. My understanding is the firearm must be unloaded and the magazines unloaded as well. The ammunition must be stored separately from the firearm. Maryland considers a single round in a magazine as a loaded weapon.

    I'm not an expert, just my understanding.

    Edit to add: http://www.handgunlaw.us/states/maryland.pdf

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    I have to travel into Maryland to visit family occasionally. My understanding is the firearm must be unloaded and the magazines unloaded as well. The ammunition must be stored separately from the firearm. Maryland considers a single round in a magazine as a loaded weapon.

    I'm not an expert, just my understanding.
    so, can i just put it in my hard case with a magazine in the gun? and just put that in the hatch area?

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    nova wrote:
    tsannicolas wrote:
    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?
    Leave it at home.

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.
    While traveling across state lines, the firearm must be unloaded (empty chamber, no magazine anywhere near the gun, all ammo separated from gun) and put in the trunk of the vehicle. If no trunk, then as far away from any passengers/driver as possible.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps
    It doesn't.

    Thanks everyone, you're all so amazingly helpful. Even when the same question is asked over and over again, ya'll are very patient.
    first off, thanks for the response.

    1) i would never leave it at home.
    2) got it and thanks

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    tsannicolas wrote:
    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps

    Thanks everyone, you're all so amazingly helpful. Even when the same question is asked over and over again, ya'll are very patient.
    I'm surprised that you can't take your class over the Internet.

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    tsannicolas wrote:
    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps

    Thanks everyone, you're all so amazingly helpful. Even when the same question is asked over and over again, ya'll are very patient.
    I'm surprised that you can't take your class over the Internet.


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    tsannicolas wrote:
    nova wrote:
    tsannicolas wrote:
    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?
    Leave it at home.

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.
    While traveling across state lines, the firearm must be unloaded (empty chamber, no magazine anywhere near the gun, all ammo separated from gun) and put in the trunk of the vehicle. If no trunk, then as far away from any passengers/driver as possible.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps
    It doesn't.

    Thanks everyone, you're all so amazingly helpful. Even when the same question is asked over and over again, ya'll are very patient.
    first off, thanks for the response.

    1) i would never leave it at home.
    2) got it and thanks
    Well I agree. I wouldn't leave it at home myself, but then again I try to avoid going to MD at all

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    OK here's my real (and more helpful) answer:

    CARRYING AND TRANSPORTATION IN VEHICLES
    Rifles and shotguns being transported in motor vehicles must be unloaded.

    It is a crime to wear or carry openly any rifle or shotgun with the intent or purpose of unlawfully injuring any person.

    It is unlawful for any person without a permit to wear or carry a handgun, openly or concealed, upon or about his person, or to knowingly transport a handgun in any vehicle traveling on public roads, highways, waterways or airways or upon roads or parking lots generally used by the public. This does not apply to any person wearing, carrying or transporting a handgun within the confines of real estate owned or leased by him, or on which he resided, or within the confines of a business establishment owned or leased by him. [3]

    Federal and Maryland State or local law enforcement officers generally are exempt from the permit requirement. However, sheriffs and their deputies are exempted only while on active assignment engaged in law enforcement and only with respect to handguns which they are duly authorized to wear, carry or transport as part of their official equipment. Law enforcement officers from other states are exempt only while on official business.

    No violation is committed by any person who can demonstrate that the handgun is being carried, worn or transported:

    1. Too or from a place of legal purchase or sale or repair shop.
    2. Between such person's bona fide residences or between his residence and place of business if the business is operated and substantially owned by that person.
    3. While engaged in or traveling to and from a "target shoot, formal or informal target practice, sport shooting event, hunting, trapping or dog obedience training class or show."
    4. By a bona fide gun collector who is "moving any part or all of his gun collection from place to place for public or private exhibition," and while such handguns are actually on exhibition.


    During transportation to and from the above places, the handguns must be unloaded and carried in an enclosed case or enclosed holster. [4]

    An additional penalty is provided for any person convicted of unlawfully wearing, carrying or transporting a handgun, if his deliberate purpose was to injury or kill another person.


    from http://www.mcsm.org/mdlaw.html

    Oh btw if you get convicted of unlawful carrying of a firearm, you get a minimum of 30 days behind bars.

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    tsannicolas wrote:
    packingdressagerider wrote:
    tsannicolas wrote:
    What do I have to do to my handgun to stay legal while driving through the Republik?

    Also, where can I find an easy to read [see: understand] site that explains what I have to do whilst traveling across state lines.

    Also, I have a VA CHP if that helps

    Thanks everyone, you're all so amazingly helpful. Even when the same question is asked over and over again, ya'll are very patient.
    I'm surprised that you can't take your class over the Internet.
    I take college courses on the Internet through a system called Blackboard. This saves me from going to antigun places like a college campus.

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    Is there a gun club or shooting range near Hagerstown that you could join? That might give you the means to "demonstrate" that you were transporting to / from a "formal or informal target practice".

    Of course, you would still have store your piece unloaded, in a locked container.... so I'm not sure there's really much value in this effort. Just a thought.

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    Is there a gun club or shooting range near Hagerstown that you could join? That might give you the means to "demonstrate" that you were transporting to / from a "formal or informal target practice".

    Of course, you would still have store your piece unloaded, in a locked container.... so I'm not sure there's really much value in this effort. Just a thought.
    yeah, it looks like i'm going to have to leave it at home

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    tsannicolas wrote:
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    Is there a gun club or shooting range near Hagerstown that you could join? That might give you the means to "demonstrate" that you were transporting to / from a "formal or informal target practice".

    Of course, you would still have store your piece unloaded, in a locked container.... so I'm not sure there's really much value in this effort. Just a thought.
    yeah, it looks like i'm going to have to leave it at home
    Were I you, that is what I would do. But I would also be looking for classes in Virginia that would satisfy the requirements you are trying to achieve in Maryland.
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    Hawkflyer wrote:
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    Is there a gun club or shooting range near Hagerstown that you could join? That might give you the means to "demonstrate" that you were transporting to / from a "formal or informal target practice".

    Of course, you would still have store your piece unloaded, in a locked container.... so I'm not sure there's really much value in this effort. Just a thought.
    yeah, it looks like i'm going to have to leave it at home
    Were I you, that is what I would do. But I would also be looking for classes in Virginia that would satisfy the requirements you are trying to achieve in Maryland.
    it's a personal development class that is held at a church and this is the closest that i could find. several others in the class drive an average of 2 hours just to get to it.

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    3. While engaged in or traveling to and from a "target shoot, formal or informal target practice, sport shooting event, hunting, trapping or dog obedience training class or show."
    Dog obedience training class? I am no dog expert but I think the play dead trick should not use a real gun.
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    Hokie wrote:
    Dog obedience training class? I am no dog expert but I think the play dead trick should not use a real gun.


    It does make you wonder what the background on that was, to be included as an exception.

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    Armed wrote:
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    Dog obedience training class? I am no dog expert but I think the play dead trick should not use a real gun.


    It does make you wonder what the background on that was, to be included as an exception.
    It's Maryland. There is no logic, rhyme or reason to be observed, or expected.

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    Training dogs for gun fright, or training dogs, whether K9 unit or seeing-eye, for gun recognition?

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    Armed wrote:
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    Dog obedience training class? I am no dog expert but I think the play dead trick should not use a real gun.


    It does make you wonder what the background on that was, to be included as an exception.
    My guess would be for training dogs in water fowl hunting.



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