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    I was just curious if anyone rides an if they ever did it carrying openly. I drive my Buell quite often an would love to OC while riding. Talk about freedom! Anyone have thoughts, comments, stories?

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    I don't have a motorcycle, but I'd probably OC if I did!

    I've OCed on a bicycle if that counts!

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    I believe the law states that you must have a permit for carry "in" a vehicle. I see nothing about carrying "on" a vehicle. However, I would check with an attorney who is very familiar with Alabama firearms laws.

    I do know that "in" a vehicle is construed by Alabama law to be concealed carry.
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    I'm planning to ride my Harley to Louisiana from Virginia looks like the only state that doesn't honor my CCW will be Alabama which I plan to open carry/

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    "Happiness is a warm shotgun!!"
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    SFCRetired wrote:
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    I'm planning to ride my Harley to Louisiana from Virginia looks like the only state that doesn't honor my CCW will be Alabama which I plan to open carry/
    Well, you just taught me something. I would have sworn that Alabama would honor your Virginia permit. I'd have been wrong.

    Of course, I will also tell you that most LEOs here wouldn't say a word since you do have a valid Virginia permit.
    Virginia does not honor Alabama's permit as Alabama's requirement for a permit does not meet Virginia's requirements. Unfortunately there is no reciprocity with Virginia.

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    Dianosis wrote:
    I was just curious if anyone rides an if they ever did it carrying openly. I drive my Buell quite often an would love to OC while riding. Talk about freedom! Anyone have thoughts, comments, stories?
    This is what I found in the Alabama code Section

    Section 13A-1-2 — Definitions

    (15) VEHICLE. Any "propelled vehicle," as defined in subdivision (9) of Section 13A-8-1. The term includes any propelled device by which any person or property is transported on land, water, or in the air, and includes motor vehicles, motorcycles, motorboats, and aircraft, and any vessel, whether propelled by machinery or not.

    I guess that means you need a permit to carry even for a motorcycle. or at least thats how I read it.

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    I carried openly when I lived in Virginia but I haven't had a bike in Alabama so I can't speak about here but I would have no problem OCing here.
    Check out my home page @ www.alabamaopencarry.com and Carry On!

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    Well, as you know since we have met before, I use my motorcyle as my main transportation, and OC while riding 90% of the time unless cold weather makes it more convienent to conceal. From what I've read, you do need a permit on a bike, but it is alot more comfortable to OC. I haven't had any problems at all doing so. I was curious about my insurance covering my new thousand dollar pistol though if I were to have an accident and slide it down the pavement under me?

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    kurtmax_0 wrote:
    I've OCed on a bicycle if that counts!
    Any trouble? I'm thinking about doing that around Birmingham as soon as I can figure out where to stick the gun when I can't carry it.
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    Since originally posting this back on Jan 27th, 2009, I have OC'd a few time on my motorcycle, using my Beretta Px4 Storm in a Fobus paddle holster. It felt secure and had no problems, but like FedFF I worry what'd happen if I went down. Would it get all scrapped up or go flying somewhere I'd never find it.

    *Note: Isn't sad we are more worried what'd happen to our guns then how WE would be if we went down lol. :quirky

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    MI people do it all the time.
    not a lawyer, dont take anything i say as legal advice.


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    If you are on your Harley with a pistol on your side and get pulled over because the officer can see it (anti-open carry Leo), can you ignore his questions directed towards the weapon? It is considered "concealed" when on a motorcycle, so all you have to say is, "officer, it's concealed. You can't see it."

    Obviously, you would be being sarcastic, but under the law, the gun "disappears" when on a motorcycle. So can you pretend the officer can't see it and ignore him on the matter?

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    In theory, not advisable. Very funny though.

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    I played it out in my head and thought it was A) very funny, and B) sorta true

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    Not to be a pain in the butt and split hairs here... but the statute actually states the two as separate instances: "in any vehicle or concealed on or about his person."

    So just because you're on/in the vehicle doesn't make it legally considered concealed... but hey, I agree, funny concept! Don't think I'll try it...

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    Good point. I must also agree its not a good idea.

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    I just started open carrying this month. But, I ride a scooterand mytrips can take me into Phenix City as it's about four miles away. I keep a Muvi Micro DV camcorder on the front of my helmet and people seem to double take the scooter before they notice the gun. No negative reactions yet tho.

    Edit...that's not me...just grabbed it off the web.

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    I've been OC'ing quite a bit in the last two weeks on my Yamaha Virago. Trying to resist, because I don't have insurance on it, but sometimes you just lookout the door and you have to ride.
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    Jonathon Norris wrote:
    I've been OC'ing quite a bit in the last two weeks on my Yamaha Virago. Trying to resist, because I don't have insurance on it, but sometimes you just lookout the door and you have to ride.
    I know how you feel. My first ride was two weeks ago because I was procrastinating taxes/registration fees.

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    I have to agree w/ SFCRetired.

    There is definitely a difference betweenIN a vehicle andON a vehicle. Open carry ON a vehicle is just open carry period. The vehicle does not come into play. You are open carrying. Carrying a firearmIN a vehicle would conceal the firearm from the viewer of the vehicle and the operator. This method is what a permit is required for in Alabama.

    Carrying a firearmON a vehicle, (scooter, cycle etc.), the firearm would not be concealed from the viewer of the vehicle or operator. This is assuming of course that the person carryingON a vehicle is not concealing the firearm with any article of clothing.

    I open carry on a daily basis, in a vehicle, on a vehicle,and on foot.

    Know the law, the law is your friend, and the same principle applies to both the law and open carry, use it or lose it.

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    Open or not

    So we have heard in out open concealed in the same post.

    I am really wanting to know because I do not have a permit. It seems to me that if it is out in the open on a motorcycle it is not concealed and therefore for an officer to say I have a concealed weapon I just might be forced to asked, What weapon?

    How about a holster mounted on the bike? Anyone have information about this. If so how would you transfer it to your person?

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    Short answer: Get a permit or get a lawyer.

    Long answer:
    Quote Originally Posted by Section 13A-11-73
    [b]License to carry pistol in vehicle or concealed on person - Required.[b]

    No person shall carry a pistol in any vehicle or concealed on or about his person, except on his land, in his own abode or fixed place of business, without a license therefor as hereinafter provided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Section 13A-1-2
    Definitions.

    Unless different meanings are expressly specified in subsequent provisions of this title, the following terms shall have the following meanings:
    ...
    (15) VEHICLE. Any "propelled vehicle," as defined in subdivision (9) of Section 13A-8-1. The term includes any propelled device by which any person or property is transported on land, water, or in the air, and includes motor vehicles, motorcycles, motorboats, and aircraft, and any vessel, whether propelled by machinery or not.
    Quote Originally Posted by Section 13A-8-1
    Definitions generally.

    The following definitions are applicable in this article unless the context otherwise requires:
    ...
    (9) PROPELLED VEHICLE. Any propelled device in, upon, or by which any person or property is transported on land, water, or in the air, and such term includes motor vehicles, motorcycles, motorboats, aircraft, and any vessel propelled by machinery, whether or not that machinery is the principal source of propulsion.
    Seems pretty clear to me that they intend it to include motorcycles (or else why call them out specifically?). As I said above, get a permit, or get a lawyer. If your legal defense is hanging on the definition of a preposition, you better make sure it's a good lawyer. "Depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."
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