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    I'd been thinking about it for almost a year, finally bought one today. Originally wanted a gun just to target shoot, but on researching decided I wanted something that would be equally effective for protection as well. My first choice was the Sig P226, but I felt it was too big and heavy for me when I handled it at the BassPro in Arundel Mills Mall. The P229 was my next choice and really sweet, but yesterday at VA Arms I picked up on a Walther P99 and fell in love with it. So I went to Guns & Ammo today (because they're actually open on Sunday) and those guys were awesome!.

    Anywho, long story short, I researched the firearms but never researched the accessories, so I'm looking for opinions. This forum has been great for answering my questions just from lurking, so I thought I'd register up and say hey from Alexandria (Fairfax county side) *waves*, and get some opinions.

    I'm gonna go to the range and shoot with some different ammo before I decide on that, but I need a good holster for carry so thoughts?

    I'm probably going to get the P229 eventually as a backup or just occasional switch off because I really do like it, but I love my Walther!

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    I think at the very least you should take a safety class first. I don't know if I would even use a holster with a Walther, but if you are a lady maybe an Uncle Mikes for concealed carry.



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    Welcome Pai

    Lots of good holster makers out there. Any place you can hide a gun, they make a holster for. First, you need to decide where on your body you intend to carry.

    Please let me know if I can assist you with any training needs.
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    I've got a Bianchi, a Don Hume and a High Noon. I haven't had a problem with any of them. My Don Hume is an outside the waistband with no retention and works well for concealed carry with an untucked shirt and open carry in situations I didn't necessarily plan on (spontaneous meal out). The Bianchi is a thumb break outside the waistband for dedicated open carry and the High Noon (Split Decision) is a tuckable inside the waistband for concealed carry.

    High Noon seems to have good prices and really quick turnaround times on their in-stock items. My friend has another of their models and likes it as well.

    I'd start with something inexpensive and see what you do and don't like about it and then shop from there for a second one if necessary. One thing I don't like in the holster department (and this is just a personal opinion) is paddle holsters. Just don't see the situation where it is the best option...

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    Yep, the guys at G&A are pleasant, knowledgeable, and all kinds of nice. Good job.

    What kind of holster are you looking for? IWB? OWB? I swear by the JPB sleeping dog dual-use (IWB/OWB) model at holsterama.com ; for me, it's perfect. Engin is always at the Chantilly show; you could see one then. It's only two weeks away.
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    Thanks ProShooter. I'm waiting for the next class at the NRA so I can register for CHP. I really want a thigh holster, but I know that makes the police twitchy (at least my Fairfax PD friends have said so) and I can even understand it. I plan to get a smaller weapon to cc.

    I've had training before on small arms but it's been years and I certainly don't mind brushing up since I intend to use mostly at the range anyway. Of bigger importance to me is self-defense training WITH weapons. That's been kinda hard to find in the area and to match my schedule.

    ETA: I'm definitely going to look around at the show if I'm not working. I'd prefer not to belt carry since I never wear them, but that seems to be the going thing. I'm not even sure what other options there are, but I know me, and hitting my elbow up against stuff on my waist tends to irritate me.

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    I don't know if I would even use a holster with a Walther

    What do you mean by this, you would just stick it in your pants?
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    VAopencarry wrote:
    I don't know if I would even use a holster with a Walther

    What do you mean by this, you would just stick it in your pants?
    No, I would leave it in the Cracker Jack box.
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    Pai wrote:
    I'm probably going to get the P229 eventually as a backup or just occasional switch off because I really do like it, but I love my Walther!
    You ought to take a look at the Walther PPS. I love mine. Slim, light, concealable 9mm which fits in JPB's holster made for 3" XD. ("Masters Holsters")

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    I checked it out today. That and the P99 Compact. I'll probably check it out again, but the grip was too short to be comfortable for me. The P99 and the Sig P229 were the only ones in all my shopping that just felt perfect in my hands (either one left or right).

    It's looking like I'm leaning toward IWB for the holster though.

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    Pai wrote:
    I checked it out today. That and the P99 Compact. I'll probably check it out again, but the grip was too short to be comfortable for me. The P99 and the Sig P229 were the only ones in all my shopping that just felt perfect in my hands (either one left or right).

    It's looking like I'm leaning toward IWB for the holster though.
    IWB still requires a belt and more room inside the clothing.

    OC or CC, IWB or OWB with a holster = belt.

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    @Yata hey

    Urgh, I know. Any other non-belt solutions for oc? Preferably ones that don't freak folk out more than usual?

    At least with IWB, I won't be constantly snagging my arm.

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    Pai wrote:
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    Urgh, I know. Any other non-belt solutions for oc? Preferably ones that don't freak folk out more than usual?

    At least with IWB, I won't be constantly snagging my arm.
    A properly designed OWB holster for your body type should not be in the way of your arm/elbow at all.

    With your questions and concerns, I would proceed slowly and spend some time with people that regularly carry - try their rigs - cleared & safe first then check again.

    Seriously, you may learn to enjoy the advantages of having a holster just below your elbow. It is in a secure location, easily reached and can be "checked" with a bump/touch.
    Most eventually decide that is where it belongs for them.

    We do make choices and compromises though.

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    Pai wrote:
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    Urgh, I know. Any other non-belt solutions for oc? Preferably ones that don't freak folk out more than usual?

    At least with IWB, I won't be constantly snagging my arm.
    Shoulder holster, but I've got no experience with that mode of carry. I prefer belt carry. You get used to having the firearm on your hip after a while and don't really bump into it. I do bump into it on purpose just to make sure it's still there

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    The Walther P99 is a very handsome gun. Congrats!

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    Pai wrote:
    Urgh, I know. Any other non-belt solutions for oc? Preferably ones that don't freak folk out more than usual?

    At least with IWB, I won't be constantly snagging my arm.
    If you position it correctly, you'll want the gun near your elbow, whether you IWB or use a belt slide holster.
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    Pai, I find that an outside the waistband holster works best for me. You don't have to completely re-do you wardrobe and for those times when you want to go to opencarry, you don't have to worry, "is someone going to consider my IWB hoster concealed even though you can obviously see the handgun grip?"

    Another option which may work for you could be a "fanny pack", but you will definitely need your CHP for that.

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    Thanks richarcm I really like it!

    Thanks for the tip kaiheitai17.

    I'm planning to shop around a bit tomorrow. Are there any stores in the area I should check out. I live in Alexandria, but I work in Ashburn, so there's a lot of ground I pass on my way back home.

    Your suggestions are greatly appreciated.

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    Pai wrote:
    Thanks richarcm I really like it!

    Thanks for the tip kaiheitai17.

    I'm planning to shop around a bit tomorrow. Are there any stores in the area I should check out. I live in Alexandria, but I work in Ashburn, so there's a lot of ground I pass on my way back home.

    Your suggestions are greatly appreciated.
    Unless you need it yesterday, I recommend waiting two weeks and checking out the selection at the Chantilly gun show. Not that I'd recommend that over a local shop, but you'll have a much wider selection, from Serpa-type retention holsters to leather and nylon, from ankle to belt to shoulder, from IWB to OWB and dual, vests, fanny packs, purses, planners, etc. Kinda hard to beat the selection.
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    A good IWB can be comfortable, but not nearly as comfortable as a OWB.
    There is always cross draw, appendix carry, conventional shoulder holster (vertical not parallel), ankle holsters and personal bags (fanny packs etc...).
    I'd avoid the ankle holsters for your primary gun or all together if you have trouble with mobility.
    Off the body carryusually isn't a good idea if it can be avoided.

    Or you can try this:
    http://www.survivalsheath.com/holsters/index.htm

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    My pride and joy is a Mitch Rosen 5JR-Pres-FD. Mitch Rosen holsters are nice but expensive. I carry my cherished Thunder Ranch Special in it. If the cops confiscate the two of them from me one day because they're trying to bust the balls of an uppity OC'er, I'll probably break down and cry.



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    Those look niiicceee.

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