ocman1991A1 wrote:
re read the post, i was never not polite. me telling him what he is sayin is not true is not rude. me not telling him i'm armed is not illegal or immoral. the leo has complete blame for what he did as it was unprovoked.
i did nothing out of the ordinary or wrong.
I just re-read you first post, wile your answers were short and to the point, they were also abrupt and not very friendly.
If you had answered the first question with a smile on your face and good afternoon sir, and then said, I would like you to see that my pistol is on my console because it is too uncomfortable to have in my holster wile I am in the car.....I can tell you, it sure would have gone very differently.
People sometimes forget that LOE's are, well human beings, they can make mistakes, they may act unpredictable when provoked, like I said, the place to press "Your rights" is in a court of law, it a control environment, out on the streets is not the time or the place to be in the cops face.
Interrupting, and telling him this and that in a unbupt maner is hostal, it will never make a cop back down, if anything, it's a fast way to get a trip to the gray bar motel or a trip to the morge.
And what of your dear sweet Girlfriend? What if the gal cop overreacted to a perceive threatting move you made wile arguing with the first cop, and fire into the car? Yes, she would have been wrong to do so, and your girl and your child would be the ones to pay the price.
No amount of money won from a law suit could ever replace either on them, and your first though should have been to do your best to keep them safe, not be in the cops face pushing for a fight over a point of law.
Being agressive or just a jerk to a cop, even when your right and there wrong, you will 9 times out of 10 be the one in found to be in the wrong at first.
I am not saying anything you did was, by the letter of the law incorrect. What I saying is, if you had been a bit friendlier to then at first, you would have lowered there perceived threat level, and things would have been far less tence.
What I would suggest to you is ask the Milwalkee cops to see the dash cam's recording of the stop (If they have one) and then sit with there chief and watch it, I bet you a McDonalds happy meal, you will be shocked at how you were really acting.