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    You know what campus needs? More guns

    Anti-gun commentary by Sean O'Neal:


    Artists' rendering of UT students on their way to class.

    In what is being pitched as a preventative measure, Texas lawmakers like State Sen. Jeff Wentworth are currently preparing bills that would allow guns on college campuses like UT Austin.

    The new look at campus gun laws is just one of many such proposals over the years that have been crafted in the wake of school shootings like the 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech. Since that specific incident, 17 states have introduced legislation that would allow licensed gun owners to carry them to school, apparently operating under the assumption that students are much less likely to be the target of random violence if wannabe Columbine killers know that every class is potentially full of John McClanes itching to take them out. None of these proposals has passed, of course, despite the protests of folks like Wentworth, who defended his innocuously titled "safety protection bill" by saying, "I don'twant to wake up one morning and hear on the news that some madman went on a Texas campus and picked off Texas students like sitting ducks."

    Fortunately for the madmen, Wentworth and his supporters (most notably Governor Rick Perry) are facing the opposition of a few special interest groups--namely their fellow representatives, university officials, gun-control advocates, campus law enforcement, and the student government of UT (who recently passed a resolution urging elected officials to "oppose attempts to eliminate campus weapon bans")--yet they still seem undeterred. In fact, some are pushing to do more than just end the ban: Groups like OpenCarry.orghave collected thousands of dollars and purchased advertising space on billboards and taxicabs as part of its mission to see gun owners "openly brandish" their guns in public, perhaps while wearing some of those cool low-slung holsters like Clint Eastwood in A Fistful Of Dollars.

    On its website, OpenCarry quotes Illinois Wesleyan University anthropologist Charles Springwood, who says that such measures will "naturalize the presence of guns, which means that guns become ordinary, omnipresent, and expected. Over time, the gun becomes a symbol of ordinary personhood." (You know, kind of like how it was weird when people started carrying around mobile phones, but then eventually everyone had one?) But then there are worrywarts like State Rep. Lon Burnam, who believe that letting college kids swagger through campus while packing heat would return Texas to a "19th-century Wild West atmosphere." We'll leave it to you to debate the merits of either position, but we will ask that if this law somehow passes, can we also set up some Deadwood-style tents on the West Mall for whiskey shots and handjobs? Might as well go all the way, right?

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    Who is the nutjob that wrote that article? He needs to be blackballed, and rode out of town on a rail, after the proper application of tar and feathers.
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    KansasMustang wrote:
    Who is the nutjob that wrote that article? He needs to be blackballed, and rode out of town on a rail, after the proper application of tar and feathers.
    Apparently, someone who doesn't like guns or OCDO very much.

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    Who is the nutjob that wrote that article? He needs to be blackballed, and rode out of town on a rail, after the proper application of tar and feathers.
    At the top of the article it says "Sean ONeal".

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    Crappy article, cool picture.
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    Y'all probably know that the picture is from Sam Peckinpau's (spelling?) 1969 movie, "The Wild Bunch". At the time, it won the label as the most violent movie released.

    The scene depicted in the picture is close the end when the men are marching to a "mission" after the death of a companion.


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    What's funny is that it is alreadty lawful to open carry long guns in Texas, like almost all states, no license required.

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    SouthernBoy wrote:
    Y'all probably know that the picture is from Sam Peckinpau's (spelling?) 1969 movie, "The Wild Bunch". At the time, it won the label as the most violent movie released.

    The scene depicted in the picture is close the end when the men are marching to a "mission" after the death of a companion.

    Yup... classic still image from a classic film.

    Great line when the man persuing the 'Bunch scolds some scummy guns-for-hire: "Those are MEN we're chasing... not egg-sucking gutter trash like you!"

    Battle at the end was awesome (known as the 'Battle of Bloody Porch' to those making the film) - Peckinpah pushed his effects crews to use groundbreaking squibbing techniques to get those memorable, gushing exit and entry wounds.

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    The really amazing thing about that movie was that it broke new ground in fast camera angle changes. It literally modernized movie violence. Although, it might have also shortened future generations attention spans. :?
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    The really amazing thing about that movie was that it broke new ground in fast camera angle changes. It literally modernized movie violence. Although, it might have also shortened future generations attention spans. :?
    tl;dr :P
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    every class is potentially full of John McClanes itching to take them out
    The same tiresome, hoplophobe drivil. Like every gun owner's greatest desire is to blow someone away. Sean O'Neal's a total retard.

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    whiskey shots and handjobs?
    I'ed beall about continuing my education for this.
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    Repeater wrote:
    Groups like OpenCarry.orghave collected thousands of dollars and purchased advertising space on billboards and taxicabs as part of its mission to see gun owners "openly brandish" their guns in public, perhaps while wearing some of those cool low-slung holsters like Clint Eastwood in A Fistful Of Dollars.
    Does this bozo understand the difference between brandish and open carry??? We are always up against liars like this who continually try and spread lies to win the argument. Open carry is NOT openly brandishing a gun. For him to claim that OpenCarry.org is pushing for open brandishing is typical leftist propaganda.

    Dang these people make me so angry... You know we'll never win as long as they're allowed to get away with lying and there never seems to be a rebuttal at the same time as their lie is put forth.
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    Wouldn't the proper answer be to fire back demanding his basis for criminal accusations?
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    Wouldn't the proper answer be to fire back demanding his basis for criminal accusations?
    Unfortunately these morons are completely incapable of understanding proper arguments and the Constitution of the United States. In fact, they have contempt for the Constitution and want to see it completely ignored.

    No the only way to get their attention would be to go through the courts... or have a revolution.
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    You know what campus needs? More guns

    Anti-gun commentary by Sean O'Neal:


    Artists' rendering of UT students on their way to class.

    In what is being pitched as a preventative measure, Texas lawmakers like State Sen. Jeff Wentworth are currently preparing bills that would allow guns on college campuses like UT Austin.

    The new look at campus gun laws is just one of many such proposals over the years that have been crafted in the wake of school shootings like the 2007 massacre at Virginia Tech. Since that specific incident, 17 states have introduced legislation that would allow licensed gun owners to carry them to school, apparently operating under the assumption that students are much less likely to be the target of random violence if wannabe Columbine killers know that every class is potentially full of John McClanes itching to take them out. None of these proposals has passed, of course, despite the protests of folks like Wentworth, who defended his innocuously titled "safety protection bill" by saying, "I don'twant to wake up one morning and hear on the news that some madman went on a Texas campus and picked off Texas students like sitting ducks."

    Fortunately for the madmen, Wentworth and his supporters (most notably Governor Rick Perry) are facing the opposition of a few special interest groups--namely their fellow representatives, university officials, gun-control advocates, campus law enforcement, and the student government of UT (who recently passed a resolution urging elected officials to "oppose attempts to eliminate campus weapon bans")--yet they still seem undeterred. In fact, some are pushing to do more than just end the ban: Groups like OpenCarry.orghave collected thousands of dollars and purchased advertising space on billboards and taxicabs as part of its mission to see gun owners "openly brandish" their guns in public, perhaps while wearing some of those cool low-slung holsters like Clint Eastwood in A Fistful Of Dollars.

    On its website, OpenCarry quotes Illinois Wesleyan University anthropologist Charles Springwood, who says that such measures will "naturalize the presence of guns, which means that guns become ordinary, omnipresent, and expected. Over time, the gun becomes a symbol of ordinary personhood." (You know, kind of like how it was weird when people started carrying around mobile phones, but then eventually everyone had one?) But then there are worrywarts like State Rep. Lon Burnam, who believe that letting college kids swagger through campus while packing heat would return Texas to a "19th-century Wild West atmosphere." We'll leave it to you to debate the merits of either position, but we will ask that if this law somehow passes, can we also set up some Deadwood-style tents on the West Mall for whiskey shots and handjobs? Might as well go all the way, right?
    Whoever wrote that article should kill themselves as quickly as humanly possible.

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    Now now, it is important that we tear apart the merit of their argument and show it to be mindless drivel. Not become as mindless as them.

    Sure, that guy makes me fume at how much of a liar and ass he is, but we need to step back and understand that there is a bigger effort going on here.

    It's not just our guns they want. Once they get our guns, all our other rights will fall like dominoes. They're already violating our 13th Amendment rights very blatantly. And every liberal will argue that they are not. They have millions of people who side with them every day, and vote for them to keep violating our rights.

    We need to look at the bigger picture, and not just our right to bear arms, but all of our rights, because the slippery slope is being greased with all of our rights they already violate in the name of safety, unity, and charity.

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    Washintonian_For_Liberty wrote:
    For him to claim that OpenCarry.org is pushing for open brandishing is typical leftist propaganda.
    It is also a bold-faced lie. Couldn't that be considered defamation (specifically, libel)?

    He should probably check facts (maybe even definitions of big words, like "brandish") before going to press. Of course, that would make all-together too much sense.

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    I don't know anything about the author of this piece, but it's curious that he included the phrase "openly brandish" in quotation marks.

    In a written piece of competent journalistic quality, this would usually mean that he took the phrase from some source other than his own words. But of course, no source is cited, leaving me to reach another conclusion, which is not only that journalism is dead in this country, but the next generation of journalists are not any better.

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    I'm telling you guys... these leftists don't care about truth. They don't care about facts, they'll make both up. All they care about is furthering their agenda and exterminating Conservative thought from this country and from the world forever. And they do not care how they do it. These people don't care for Liberty and Freedom. They are the radical egalitarians where it's not equal opportunity they are looking for, but equality in outcome.
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    Repeater wrote:
    ...Artists' rendering of UT students on their way to class....

    For a minute I thought Utah was getting a shout out.



    ...can we also set up some Deadwood-style tents on the West Mall for whiskey shots and handjobs? Might as well go all the way, right?
    Not a bad idea. I can't recall the last time I had a whiskey shot or a handjob.



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    It was probably written by one of the Students for Concealed Carry...:?

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