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    VA senate just failed to pass the bill closing the "gun show loophole"....thank goodness!

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    I just read the same. Good stuff! Now to work to get rid of those 18 that voted for it and keep the 22 who voted against.

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    I just watched Senator Marsh speak on SB1257 on PBS and I must say, he is by far one of the worst public speakers I have ever seen. I also was entertained by his use of two incidents that occurred outside of Virginia (one in California, one in Missouri I believe) as evidence for his argument to pass this bill.

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    I watched it also, it was something to behold. Disjointed in content, logic and delivery.

    I'm really interested to see the breakdown of the vote to see where the support and the lack of support came from.

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    byrdj wrote:
    I just watched Senator Marsh speak on SB1257 on PBS and I must say, he is by far one of the worst public speakers I have ever seen..
    Link?
    "These are the shock troops (opencarry.org) of the gun lobby. And, they are not going away."
    Ceasefire NJ Director Brian Miller, NJ.com, August 20, 2009

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    No idea where you can find a video replay. I just happened to have my TV set on public television and they are broadcasting the assembly meeting. I believe you can stream it from the General Assembly website.

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    I watched it on the live streaming feed from the general assembly. When they are actually in session the feed is available from the GA's home page. Same for the house. Don't know if there is any replay capability.




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    Here are the links:

    House:

    http://legis.state.va.us/hod_session_streaming.html

    Senate:

    http://legis.state.va.us/sov_session_stream.html

    At the bottom of each page, there is also a link to the minutes from each day. Just a summary of votes, but should be enough to see what happened to a bill you are interested in.

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    I noticed that they also voted on a "Reconsideration of defeated action agreed to by Senate (40-Y 0-N)"
    and then did a "Passed by for the day".

    I guess this means it is still alive and Marsh will have time for arm twisting/bribery. 4 votes is not enough margin for me.

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    Not even four votes, only three technically, by two to tie. How do you find out how your rep voted. TIME TO GIVE THEM A CALL!!!

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    go here: http://www.vcdl.org/static/2009leg.htmland click on the action link.

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    Not even four votes, only three technically, by two to tie. How do you find out how your rep voted. TIME TO GIVE THEM A CALL!!!



    SB 1257 Firearms; criminal records check performed at a gun show before vendor may transfer.

    log in | tally sheet floor: 02/03/09 Senate: Read third time and defeated by Senate (18-Y 22-N)

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    YEAS--Barker, Deeds, Herring, Howell, Locke, Lucas, Marsh, McEachin, Miller, J.C., Miller, Y.B., Norment, Northam, Petersen, Puller, Quayle, Saslaw, Ticer, Whipple--18.

    NAYS--Blevins, Colgan, Cuccinelli, Edwards, Hanger, Houck, Hurt, Martin, McDougle, Newman, Obenshain, Puckett, Reynolds, Ruff, Smith, Stolle, Stosch, Stuart, Vogel, Wagner, Wampler, Watkins--22.

    RULE 36--0.

    NOT VOTING--0.



    so much for creigh and chappy being pro 2A

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    AtackDuck wrote:
    I noticed that they also voted on a "Reconsideration of defeated action agreed to by Senate (40-Y 0-N)"
    and then did a "Passed by for the day".

    I guess this means it is still alive and Marsh will have time for arm twisting/bribery. 4 votes is not enough margin for me.
    From Phillip

    In a parliamentary move, the gun show bill's vote was reconsidered and
    passed by for the day, effectively bringing it back from the dead and
    allowing the bill to be voted on again on the Senate Floor (perhaps
    tomorrow). :-(

    So we must keep the pressure on until this atrocity is truly dead and
    buried.

    We must make sure that we don't lose any of the Senators who opposed
    the bill today.


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    Senator Houck's aides are beginning to recognize my name when ever I call:celebrate Pretty soon they should be able to recognize my voice since I call just about everyday.
    'Till the last landings made, and we stand unafraid, on a shore not mortal has seen,
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    I see Senator Newman, my senator, is a 'nay' voter. I'll be sure to send him a thank you note, but also encourage him to vote it again when necessary.

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    Wolf_shadow wrote:
    From Phillip

    In a parliamentary move, the gun show bill's vote was reconsidered and
    passed by for the day, effectively bringing it back from the dead and
    allowing the bill to be voted on again on the Senate Floor (perhaps
    tomorrow). :-(



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