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Thread: SB1035 - restaurant ban "semi-" repeal passed in Senate

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    Still short of enough votes to over ride King Kaine

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    So as I read the bill, there is no punishment for not informing and not drinking?

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    I believe failure to notify is a Class 3 Misdemeanor

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    I read it as if you CC and the restaurant serves alcohol you must notify manager. OC no notification of manager. If you do CC an drink there are big penalties though.

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    What does this mean:

    02/03/09 Senate: Read third time and passed Senate (20-Y 19-N)
    02/03/09 Senate: Reconsideration of passage agreed to by Senate (40-Y 0-N)
    02/03/09 Senate: Passed Senate (24-Y 16-N)
    Is this a "do over"? Looks like one more vote was cast the second time, and at least three were changed as well.

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    And we will need 27 to override Kaine's likely veto?
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    The need to notify is sooo lame. As I mentioned before, should you get the person you notify to sign something so you can later prove that you did??? This may be a step in the right direction but still... Perhaps next year we can get it rewritten after they realize there haven't been mass alcohol fueled shootings across the state.

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    So, Sen. Marsh voted yea but meant to vote nay. His verbal statement doesn't change his actual vote, correct?
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    rlh2005 wrote:
    So, Sen. Marsh voted yea but meant to vote nay. His verbal statement doesn't change his actual vote, correct?
    Hmm, is that like a hanging chad?

    :shock:

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    TFred wrote:
    rlh2005 wrote:
    So, Sen. Marsh voted yea but meant to vote nay. His verbal statement doesn't change his actual vote, correct?
    Hmm, is that like a hanging chad?

    :shock:

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    rlh2005 wrote:
    So, Sen. Marsh voted yea but meant to vote nay. His verbal statement doesn't change his actual vote, correct?
    Technically, no, but you can be sure he won't repeat it on the veto override vote. The bill is short 2 votes for getting a veto override and, if I recall correctly, 2 or 3 Dems switched their votes last year on the veto override to sustain the veto despite their prior support of the bill.
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    Looks better to the masses. He can claim he voted for the bill or claim he voted against it, as needed.

    Standard ploy, along with putting a rediculous amendment on a bill, voting against it, and then reintroducing the bill without the amendment and voting for it. You get to list either on your voting record, whichever is advantageous to you at the time.

    I'm guessing the revote is the same thing. Vote against. Bill passes anyway. Have a revote and change yours, so you get to go in the "yes" box on the record.

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    So how long does the Gov. have to veto a bill? When does this actualy become law?

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    Ahhh, the good ol' John Kerry "I was for it before I was against it" or was it "I was against it before I was for it."
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    Squid13 wrote:
    So how long does the Gov. have to veto a bill? When does this actualy become law?
    Long way yet. It still has to actually pass the Senate for real, then a similar bill must go through the same whole process in the House. If there are amendments or differences (remember, we are hoping that they remove the notification requirement), then it has to go through a joint House/Senate committee to resolve the differences. Once that is done, then it goes to the Governor's desk, where it will presumably be vetoed. Then back for overriding, but I don't know if that requires both chambers or just one.

    Generally, new laws take effect on July 1, the year they are passed.

    So far, there is only been one bill that has made it all the way through the process this year, SB 39, having to do with the threshold for reporting traffic accidents. Take a look at the LIS status page for that bill, and compare it to the LIS status page for this bill. You can see this one is just barely started. Very few bills take the exact same path of course, but you get the idea.

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