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    I getting ready to email this. Before I do -- Comments? Critique?



    Senator Deeds,

    In the last Virginia gubernatorial race, candidate Kilgore was endorsed by the NRA. He and his staff figured that they had the gun-vote locked up. Then one of his lead staffers insulted the Virginia Citizens Defense League. No apology, just a blow off. Instead of 3,000+ people working for his election, Kilgore had 3,000+ pissed off Virginians no longer working for his election and about 800 activists working diligently against him. Mr. Kilgore lost the election.

    Senator Deeds, I suggest that you reevaluate your votes and positions on the issue of our right to defend ourselves with arms. You have already voted against us on the so-called “gunshow loophole” bill. Can you really afford to walk the Kilgore path? We are not ignorant, illiterate rednecks. We are well organized and well educated when it comes to our rights. We are Virginians.

    A fellow Virginian, Patrick Henry, once said: "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel."[/i] You sir, are suspect; can you afford it politically?



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    Sounds good to me. I say let em have it. I'm sick and tired of dirtbag politicians taking away freedoms that many thousands of Americans have paid for with their very lives.





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    1. Change "pissed off" to "angry."

    2. E-mail it to Philip VanCleave. He knows what he's doing.He will know whether the strong tone will help, hurt, or have no effect on his efforts.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Also, consider handwriting it out, and snail mailing it. Much more personal than email.



    I got a doosey I'm about to mail off to my representative.

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    Citizen wrote:
    1. Change "pissed off" to "angry."

    2. E-mail it to Philip VanCleave. He knows what he's doing.He will know whether the strong tone will help, hurt, or have no effect on his efforts.
    I rather like "pissed off". It's more -- visceral and conveys more energy.

    Philip is up tohis armpits doingwhat he does best: :celebrate I'd rather not bother him with this one.

    Good points! Thanks!

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    AtackDuck wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    1. Change "pissed off" to "angry."

    2. E-mail it to Philip VanCleave. He knows what he's doing.He will know whether the strong tone will help, hurt, or have no effect on his efforts.
    Irather like "pissed off". It's more -- visceral and conveys more energy.

    Philip is up tohis armpits doingwhat he does best: :celebrate I'd rather not bother him with this one.

    Good points! Thanks!
    Then why did you ask if it was too harsh?

    "Pissed off" conveys, depending on the reader, exactly the "redneck" image you say we're not. Use proper English. Trust me. He is going to get the message. He may disregard it, but he'll get it. Using a colloquialism only improves your chances of being disregarded. Ever see the letter where Ben Franklin took to task a contemporary over that fellow's stance in the Revolution? No cursing. No hysteria. Just the simple declaration at the end that they were now enemies.

    Philip won't mind in the least. I've done it. He responded in a timely manner with very good advice, with solid explanations. If he really is busy at the time your e-mail lands, he will set it aside until he can get to it.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    AtackDuck wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    1. Change "pissed off" to "angry."

    2. E-mail it to Philip VanCleave. He knows what he's doing.He will know whether the strong tone will help, hurt, or have no effect on his efforts.
    I rather like "pissed off". It's more -- visceral and conveys more energy.

    Philip is up tohis armpits doingwhat he does best: :celebrate I'd rather not bother him with this one.

    Good points! Thanks!
    It also conveys ignorance, I can't remember who the original quote is attributed to(twain maybe)but i remember it paraphrased like this "the man who uses curse words to emphasize his argument doesn't own a thesauraus"

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    Well argued, both Citizen & 67GT390FB! That's why I asked. "Angry" it is.

    Anymore?

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    67GT390FB wrote:
    It also conveys ignorance, I can't remember who the original quote is attributed to(twain maybe)but i remember it paraphrased like this "the man who uses curse words to emphasize his argument doesn't own a thesauraus"
    Despite the anger and outrage, I have to agree with your point. If we launch into to a tirade over an issue, we look bad. We feed that stereotype of the ignorant and uneducated. Not that it should matter, but these are educated people that think they're better than the rest of us.

    I know it rubs against the grain of how we might really like to express ourselves, but you're right.

    BTW - I love that quote. Do you think you could find it?



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    Armed wrote:
    67GT390FB wrote:
    It also conveys ignorance, I can't remember who the original quote is attributed to(twain maybe)but i remember it paraphrased like this "the man who uses curse words to emphasize his argument doesn't own a thesauraus"
    Despite the anger and outrage, I have to agree with your point. If we launch into to a tirade over an issue, we look bad. We feed that stereotype of the ignorant and uneducated. Not that it should matter, but these are educated people that think they're better than the rest of us.

    I know it rubs against the grain of how we might really like to express ourselves, but you're right.

    BTW - I love that quote. Do you think you could find it?

    http://www.quotationspage.com/quote/4486.html

    http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2532

    http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...hen101581.html

    :celebrate

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    AtackDuck wrote:
    I getting ready to email this. Before I do -- Comments? Critique?



    Senator Deeds,

    In the last Virginia gubernatorial race, candidate Kilgore was endorsed by the NRA. He and his staff figured (delete "that") they had the gun(delete hyphen)vote locked up. Then one of his lead staffers insulted the Virginia Citizens Defense League. No apology, just a blow off. Instead of over 3000 people working for his election, Kilgore had over 3000 angry Virginians no longer working for his election, (add comma) and about 800 activists working diligently against him. Mr. Kilgore lost the election.

    Senator Deeds, I suggest (delete "that") you reevaluate your votes and positions on the issue of our right to defend ourselves with arms. You have already voted against freedom on the so-called “gun(add hyphen)show loophole” bill. Can you really afford to walk the Kilgore path? We are not ignorant, illiterate rednecks. We are well(add hyphen)organized and well(add hyphen)educated when it comes to our rights. We are Virginians.

    A fellow Virginian, Patrick Henry, once said: "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel." You sir, are suspect; can you afford it politically?



    I am not a spokesman for, nor do I represent, (add comma) the VCDL.

    Regards,


    me


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    Thanks Tess!!

    Shot , over.

    Shot, Out

    Splash.

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    67GT390FB wrote:
    It also conveys ignorance, I can't remember who the original quote is attributed to(twain maybe)but i remember it paraphrased like this "the man who uses curse words to emphasize his argument doesn't own a thesauraus"
    Twain also said, "When angry, count four; when very angry, swear."

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    Cursing is an indicator of a limited vocabulary.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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    Good points in the responses. But one more is needed.

    Avoid the use of the word, "redneck". It is offensive on a par with the dredded "N" word since it portrays a negative (racial?) stereotype about Southerners. Instead consider, "We are not ignorant, illiterate voters."




    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    Cursing is an indicator of a limited vocabulary.

    Yata hey
    Here's what my brother used to say about cursing.

    "It is the effort of a feeble mind trying to express itself forcibly."


    In the final seconds of your life, just before your killer is about to dispatch you to that great eternal darkness, what would you rather have in your hand? A cell phone or a gun?

    Si vis pacem, para bellum.

    America First!

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