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    I have a friend that wants to sell me his M91/30 M-N for $80. I inspected it and it looks good, except for the metal straps that hold the wood around the barrel are loose and let the top piece of wood slide around.. It comes with all the cleaning supplies and stuff that came with it and a bayonet. Its a 1942 and has a triangle with an arrow in it.
    What do you guys think?

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    They go for $100 around here. How can you go wrong for only $80?

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    Thats what Im thinking, nice little cannon.

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    As long as the barrel is good and the action closes tight, I'd say go for it. If you do end up getting it, you'll want to spend some time at 7.62x54r.net, that site will help you identify exactly what it is and where it came from (arrow in a triangle is Tula, if I remember correctly). The history on them is almost as fun as actually shooting them.

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    Izhevsk.
    Barrel is good, but it has been counterbored before.

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    You're right, star + arrow is Tula. D'oh.

    I have had several with counterbored barrels and they shot just fine.

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    colt45ws wrote:
    I have a friend that wants to sell me his M91/30 M-N for $80. I inspected it and it looks good, except for the metal straps that hold the wood around the barrel are loose and let the top piece of wood slide around.. It comes with all the cleaning supplies and stuff that came with it and a bayonet. Its a 1942 and has a triangle with an arrow in it.
    What do you guys think?
    The "metal straps" would be barrel bands, and the "top piece of wood" would be the handguard. The barrel bands are split rings and can be taken off and tightened up.

    Buy the gun.

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    Definitely going to be worth the $80

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    BUY IT!!!! Where else can you get a rifle of that caliber for $80?!?!? I have three and will be getting a sniper for SOG next week. I LUV EM!

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    AK-47: It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.
    AR-15: You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
    Mosin-Nagant: It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.

    AK-47: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
    AR-15: You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
    Mosin-Nagant: You can hit the barn from two counties away.

    AK-47: Cheap mags are fun to buy.
    AR-15: Cheap mags melt.
    Mosin-Nagant: What's a mag?

    AK-47: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
    AR-15 You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
    Mosin-Nagant: What's a safety?

    AK-47: Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
    AR-15: Your rifle has a 9-point stealth tactical suspension system.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your rifle has dog collars.

    AK: Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
    AR-15: Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your bayonet is longer than your leg.

    AK-47: You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak.
    AR-15: You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
    Mosin-Nagant: You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.

    AK-47: When out of ammo, your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
    AR-15: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
    Mosin-Nagant: When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.

    AK-47: Recoil is manageable, even fun.
    AR-15: What's recoil?
    Mosin-Nagant: Recoil is often used to fix shoulders dislocated by the previous shot.

    AK-47: Your sight adjustment goes to 10, and you've never bothered moving it.
    AR-15: Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles, and you've actually tried it.

    AK-47: Your rifle can be used by any two-bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
    AR-15: Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two-bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your rifle has fought against itself - and won every time.

    AK-47: Your rifle won some revolutions.
    AR-15: Your rifle drove Saddam out of Kuwait.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your rifle won a pole vault event.

    AK-47: You paid $330.
    AR-15: You paid $900.
    Mosin-Nagant: You paid $59.95.

    AK-47: You buy cheap ammo by the case.
    AR-15: You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
    Mosin-Nagant: You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.

    AK-47: You can intimidate your foe with the bayonet mounted.
    AR-15: Your foes laugh when you mount your bayonet.
    Mosin-Nagant: You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.

    AK-47: Service life, 50 years.
    AR-15: Service life, 40 years.
    Mosin-Nagant: Service life, 100 years, and counting.

    AK-47: It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes.
    AR-15: You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper.
    Mosin-Nagant: You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54R.

    AK-47: You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
    AR-15: You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it's under warranty!
    Mosin-Nagant: If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.

    AK-47: You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames.
    AR-15: You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group.
    Mosin-Nagant: You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4.

    AK-47: After a long day the range, you relax by watching Red Dawn.
    AR-15: After a long day at the range, you relax by watching Black Hawk Down.
    Mosin-Nagant: After a long day at the range, you relax by visiting the chiropractor.

    AK-47: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of vodka.
    AR-15: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hot dogs and apple pie.
    Mosin-Nagant: After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob.

    AK-47: You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.
    AR-15: Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.

    AK-47: Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint.
    AR-15: Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high-tech polymers.
    Mosin-Nagant: Your rifle's finish is low-grade shellac, cosmoline, and Olga's toe nails.

    AK-47: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
    AR-15: Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner.
    Mosin-Nagant: Did cameras even exist to photograph Sergei Mosin?

    AK-47: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
    AR-15: Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
    Mosin-Nagant: Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the yard to sleep in.


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    we had another Moisin thread around here somewhere not too long ago. Grab it. May be your first but probably won't be your last. Moisins are like potato chips. You can't have just one.


    That, and they're full of grease when you get them.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    AK-47: You paid $800
    AR-15: You paid $2,500
    Mosin-Nagant: You paid $99.95

    Price adjusted.

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    Its mine now.

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    colt45ws wrote:
    Its mine now.
    Awesome....I don't think there's a disappointed Mosin owner anywhere...I've got a '38 Tula with matching numbers and I LOVE it
    One day your life is going to flash before your eyes, make it worth watching.

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    All the numbers match except for the magazine which has one set with a line through and right next it the serial on the rest of the gun.
    http://colt45.ws/misc/mosin/Mosin1.jpg
    http://colt45.ws/misc/mosin/Mosin2.jpg

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
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    AK-47: Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
    AR-15 You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
    Mosin-Nagant: What's a safety?
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    Does too have a safety!

    Damn toughest safety to set/unset I've ever fooled with, but it's there.

    Pull back on the cocking knob and twist it a few degrees to the right.

    Unset the safety by pulling back and twisting it back to the left a bit.

    I like my K98 safety better (arguably one of the most user friendly IMO), but the MN M44 carbine is a ball to shoot. The shockwave quip is very true -- especially on the 44

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    I can't say I've ever been brave enough to actually attemp to engage the safety with the gun loaded. I keep getting this feeling that while trying to disengage it my fingers will slip, at which point I have about a tenth of a second to pray that the trigger is in better shape than my fingers.

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    My first, and only, rifle is the 91/30. Best $70 I ever spent.

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    This is the ONE rifle I should have bought... but didn't. (kick-kick) I have fired them enough to admire them. They are brutal... efficient... non-nonsense, killing machines.

    I could have had one (cond. mint) with the original 2X scope 'n pig sticker w/sling 'n accessories for $120. 'bout 14 years back...

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    Although I prefer the M44, I would buy the M91 for $80 bucks. Whatthey lack in accuracy, they make up for in sheer punch and range. Don't plan on shootingmore than 20 or 30 rounds each outing though,or your shoulder will regret it.

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    enlighten me here, if these rifles are so cheap but well made, accurate, and strong, why dont i see more people with them? with my tight budget this sounds like the perfect rifle for me, whats the catch?

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    Catch?

    5-round capacity
    Bolt action
    Heavy recoil

    Ammunition is mostly old military surplus with corrosive primers (at least that I've seen/used), so you really do need to clean up after every shooting session.

    Other than that, no catch, just one of those hidden gems

    Mauser K98 clones are another cheap/fun gun to shoot. I would LOVE to have an original German one, but they're much more expensive.

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    Clean a Mosin-Nagant? Why? Run a bore brush thru it if you must...

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    They are also cheap because there are so many of them. Been in production for almost a century?

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    Heavy recoil
    Me at the range with my 91/30:

    Boom! "Ow!" Clickity-click. Boom! "Ow!" Clickity-click. Boom! "Ow!"

    It's quite an attention getter, especially with the spear/bayonet attached.





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