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Pointman wrote:
Why is it that many pro rights people on OpenCarry are against obtaining the ability to use their rights, especially when someone else is doing the work for them?
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Excuse me, but did you really just ask why people on this forum don't like to ask permission to exercise their rights? Please tell me you didn't just say that, because it looks like that is exactly what you said.
This is not about being nice to restaurant managers. Most people who carry have no problem in that area. It is also not about slipping someone a few bucks tip. If it is then we are no better than Mexico, where the monied class can do as they please and to hell with the peasants. This is about going through a process dictated by the state to obtain a "Permit to conceal" a firearm that you can already lawfully carry, and then having to TELL people you are carrying it,
which not incidentally defeats the purpose of concealing it in the first instance.
As people on this and other forums keep saying, "Concealed is concealed". Contrary to the views expressed here, this requirement is not going to go away in 6 months. First off the legislature will not meet again until next year, so next July would be the first opportunity for this to go away. Second, the legislature is NOT going to remove a provision that they think supports private property concerns. So in the sprit of this forum, you might just be better off OCing in the first place.
The legislature does not want people secreting weapons onto private property where the owner might not want them. Now while we would all observe any owners wishes in this regard, the legislature does not believe that we would. Moreover the legislature does not think any of us are adult enough not to drink while carrying.
Unfortunately in this area they may have a point as I have personally seen people drink while carrying. Not smart but people do it. In any case they want to be able to blame the bar tender if you get drunk and shoot someone. How long will it be before these establishments figure this out and start refusing to serve people who carry to avoid the liability.