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Thread: VA-ALERT: Legislative Update 2/6/09

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    1. Gun bill status
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    Gun Bills Advancing in House

    This morning the Militia, Police, and Public Safety committee voted
    the following bills out of committee:

    HB 1655, Delegate Carrico, would put teeth in firearms preemption law

    Voting pro-gun:

    Sherwood, Griffith, Kilgore, Wright, Carrico, Lingamfelter, Nutter,
    Athey, Janis, Cline, Gilbert, Poindexter, Merricks, Barlow, Shuler,
    Lewis, Miller, P.J., Tyler, Bowling

    Voting anti-gun:

    Scott, J.M., Poisson, Herring

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    HB 1851, Delegate Lingamfelter, would exempt active duty military from
    One Handgun A Month

    Voting pro-gun:

    Sherwood, Griffith, Kilgore, Wright, Carrico, Lingamfelter, Nutter,
    Athey, Janis, Cline, Gilbert, Poindexter, Merricks, Barlow, Shuler,
    Lewis, Miller, P.J., Tyler, Bowling

    Voting anti-gun:

    Scott, J.M., Poisson, Herring

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    HB 2528, Delegate Cole, would require localities to sell guns bought
    from a "gun buy-up" to FFLs

    Voting pro-gun:

    Sherwood, Griffith, Kilgore, Wright, Carrico, Lingamfelter, Nutter,
    Athey, Janis, Cline, Gilbert, Poindexter, Merricks, Barlow, Shuler,
    Lewis, Miller, P.J., Bowling

    Voting anti-gun:

    Scott, J.M., Poisson, Tyler, Herring

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    HB 2144, Delegate Nutter, would keep the Virginia State Police from
    providing personal information on CHP holders. This bill STILL allows
    courts to release that same information for a local area. We will
    continue to fight to make this bill include courts if it gets to the
    Senate.

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    HB 2178, Delegate E.T. Scott, would make it a crime for a convicted
    felon to have ammunition in his possession. Bill was changed to
    reduce the penalty from a felony to a class 1 misdemeanor. It also
    was changed to exempt ammo used in antique firearms. We continue to
    oppose this bill as it applies to even non-violent felons who have
    been clean for years.

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    Bill that has cleared committee and is on the House Floor:

    HB 2136, Delegate Jackson Miller, would allow police to arrest someone
    at will for a class 1 or class 2 misdemeanor passed House and goes to
    Senate now. We will fight it in Senate.

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    Bill that has passed the Senate and headed to the House:

    HB 1254, Senator Marsh, requires out of state permits to be presented
    with yet another photo ID. We will fight this in the House.

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    Bills that cleared committee and are on the Senate Floor:

    HB 1166, Senator Watkins, raises background check tax on guns from $2
    to $5. If this passes the Senate, we will fight this in the House.
    SB 1383, Senator Stolle, repeals Virginia's silence law since the list
    of registered silencer owners is controlled by the federal government
    and Virginia can't enforce that law
    SB 1431, Senator Cuccinelli, would keep Virginia from participating in
    REAL ID act

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    Bill that cleared subcommittee and is going to full committee in the
    Senate:

    SB 1513, Senator Smith, would put teeth in firearms preemption law
    (same as Delegate Carrico's HB 1655)

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    Speaker Howell has raised his magic wand and the following bills are
    going to disappear into thin air in the House, never to be seen
    again
    . Four pro-gun bills and one anti-gun bill:

    HB 1656, Delegate Bob Marshall, would allow full-time faculty members
    at state institutions of higher learning to carry a concealed handgun
    on campus if they have a CHP
    HB 1734, Delegate Pogge, cleanup bill on CHP items
    HB 1821, Delegate Johnson, restaurant ban repeal
    HB 1822, Delegate Johnson, would allow CHP holders to carry on K-12
    school property
    HB 2631, Delegate Caputo, would require private sales at gun shows in
    Fairfax County go through a dealer


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    Speaker Howell is a piece of trash.

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    hsmith wrote:
    Speaker Howell is a piece of trash.
    Is that the kind of trash one would flush in the morning?

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    Glock27Bill wrote:
    hsmith wrote:
    Speaker Howell is a piece of trash.
    Is that the kind of trash one would flush in the morning?
    That kind we couldn't pick up because it was frozen to the asphalt

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    Thank you for your e-mail in opposition to HB 2136.

    I wanted to let you know that I voted in favor of HB 2136 and to tell you
    why.

    Prior to a Supreme Court decision in 2006 the law to allowed police
    officers to arrest for misdemenors and they typically only did so in
    certain circumstances. The court decision still allows them to arrest for
    certain circumstances surrounding misdemenors but has left thm in a bad
    position in certain other situations. For example if a witness tells an
    officer that he has seen an offense take place the officer can arrest the
    offender for that misdemenor but if the officer witnesses the offense
    he/she cannot arrest the person for the same offense.

    There are certain misdemenors that certainly warrant arrest but officers
    cannot arrest for if they witness, these include, trespass, assault, sexual
    battery, indecent exposure and peeping. This prohibits officers from
    arresting know drug dealers for trespassing on housing authority property
    from which they have been banned and arresting known shoplifters who are
    trespassing on retail property from which they have been banned. Now
    officers must issue a summons even in assault and trespass cases and in
    most cases the summons is ignored allowing misdemeanants to escape justice.
    It also keeps officers from making arrests even is situations where they
    might be able to because of fear of being accused of unlawful arrest. This
    means more criminals roaming the streets.

    I do not believe that this legislation is in any way meant to target law
    abiding citizens. It is merely intended to allow officers the right of
    arrest that they had in certain misdemenor cases until 3 years ago.

    I hope this information helps you understand why I voted for this
    legislation. If you have any further questions or concerns please let me
    know.

    Sincerely,

    Delegate Bob Marshall

    RGM/ccg

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    profile wrote:
    Thank you for your e-mail in opposition to HB 2136.

    I wanted to let you know that I voted in favor of HB 2136 and to tell you
    why.

    Prior to a Supreme Court decision in 2006 the law to allowed police
    officers to arrest for misdemenors and they typically only did so in
    certain circumstances. The court decision still allows them to arrest for
    certain circumstances surrounding misdemenors but has left thm in a bad
    position in certain other situations. For example if a witness tells an
    officer that he has seen an offense take place the officer can arrest the
    offender for that misdemenor but if the officer witnesses the offense
    he/she cannot arrest the person for the same offense.

    There are certain misdemenors that certainly warrant arrest but officers
    cannot arrest for if they witness, these include, trespass, assault, sexual
    battery, indecent exposure and peeping. This prohibits officers from
    arresting know drug dealers for trespassing on housing authority property
    from which they have been banned and arresting known shoplifters who are
    trespassing on retail property from which they have been banned. Now
    officers must issue a summons even in assault and trespass cases and in
    most cases the summons is ignored allowing misdemeanants to escape justice.
    It also keeps officers from making arrests even is situations where they
    might be able to because of fear of being accused of unlawful arrest. This
    means more criminals roaming the streets.

    I do not believe that this legislation is in any way meant to target law
    abiding citizens. It is merely intended to allow officers the right of
    arrest that they had in certain misdemenor cases until 3 years ago.

    I hope this information helps you understand why I voted for this
    legislation. If you have any further questions or concerns please let me
    know.

    Sincerely,

    Delegate Bob Marshall

    RGM/ccg
    Is that really how he spells "misdemenor"??? Maybe "ccg" needs to find a dictionary?


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    Is that really how he spells "misdemenor"??? Maybe "ccg" needs to find a dictionary?
    Maybe he lostimicated his spellcheckinator?
    The quiet war has begun, with silent weapons
    And the newest slavery is to keep the people poor, and stupid
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    I got a particular kick out of "misdemeanants"! Never heard that one before! Try tossing that into a casual coffee break conversation!

    TFred


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    hsmith wrote:
    Glock27Bill wrote:
    hsmith wrote:
    Speaker Howell is a piece of trash.
    Is that the kind of trash one would flush in the morning?
    That kind we couldn't pick up because it was frozen to the asphalt


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    profile wrote:
    Thank you for your e-mail in opposition to HB 2136.

    Now officers must issue a summons even in assault and trespass cases and in most cases the summons is ignored allowing misdemeanants to escape justice. It also keeps officers from making arrests even is situations where they might be able to because of fear of being accused of unlawful arrest. This means more criminals roaming the streets.

    I hope this information helps you understand why I voted for this legislation. If you have any further questions or concerns please let me know.

    Sincerely,

    Delegate Bob Marshall

    RGM/ccg
    How does he know that? That statement: "in most cases the summons is ignored allowing misdemeanants to escape justice" is BS from Miller.

    Shame on Bob for saying something that is unsubstantiated.

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    ...in most cases the summons is ignored allowing misdemeanants to escape justice.
    WOW!

    That is a completely inaccurate statement. I have been involved, in my professional capacity, in all the sorts of Virginia cases mentioned. In the vast majority of those cases the accused "misdemeanant" (yes... that is really a word) DOES show up for court. I would estimate the Failure To Appear on a summons percentage at being less than 10% for certain, and probably less than 5%.

    The guy is CLEARLY just making up numbers.

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