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    Vermont State Requirements
    Rifles and Shotguns

    * Permit to purchase rifles and shotguns? No.

    * Registration of rifles and shotguns? No.

    * Licensing of owners of rifles and shotguns? No.

    * Permit to carry rifles and shotguns? No.


    Handguns

    * Permit to purchase handgun? No.

    * Registration of handguns? No.

    * Licensing of owners of handguns? No.

    * Permit to carry handguns? No.


    Other Requirements

    * Is there a State waiting period? No.

    * Is there a FBI *NICS check for firearm transactions? No. State system.

    * Permit to carry a concealed weapon required? No.

    * Record of sale: Yes.

    *NICS - National Instant Check System

    Caution: This summary is meant for general purposes only. Firearm laws
    frequently change.

    Source: Department of the Treasury Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
    Firearms - State Laws And Published Ordinances - Firearms (23rd Edition
    – 2001)



    Psss. Pass it on. If you don't a million children in country of Rumpuckero. Will not be able to watch the Disney Channel
    this week.

    Do it for the children, please.
    The use of force is a last resort. One aspect of violence is that it is unpredictable. Although your initial intention may be to use limited force, once you have engaged in violence the consequences are unpredictable. Violence always brings about unexpected results and almost always provokes retaliation.

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    People always have the government they deserve, and we technically deserve the harassment we have from Michigan politicians and police. OCing and other activism is the key to bringing about change. Until that job is done, we are indeed lesser citizens.


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    The complete and utter truth can be challenged from every direction and it will always hold up. Accordingly there are few greater displays of illegitimacy than to attempt to impede free thought and communication.

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    Michigander wrote:
    People always have the government they deserve, and we technically deserve the harassment we have from Michigan politicians and police. OCing and other activism is the key to bringing about change. Until that job is done, we are indeed lesser citizens.

    +1

    Activism is the key to bringing about change.

    Try, every day, to talk to one person about your political views, and gun rights. You don't even have to change their mind on an issue. Just plant the seed of truth in their mind. There is so much FUD being spread about guns that if you can help one person realize they have been lied to all this time it goes a long way.


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    HPC9 wrote:
    Michigander wrote:
    People always have the government they deserve, and we technically deserve the harassment we have from Michigan politicians and police. OCing and other activism is the key to bringing about change. Until that job is done, we are indeed lesser citizens.

    +1

    Activism is the key to bringing about change.

    Try, every day, to talk to one person about your political views, and gun rights. You don't even have to change their mind on an issue. Just plant the seed of truth in their mind. There is so much FUD being spread about guns that if you can help one person realize they have been lied to all this time it goes a long way.
    You might not get the change you want, but it is change nonetheless.

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    LaVere wrote:
    Vermont State Requirements
    Rifles and Shotguns

    * Permit to purchase rifles and shotguns? No.

    * Registration of rifles and shotguns? No.

    * Licensing of owners of rifles and shotguns? No.

    * Permit to carry rifles and shotguns? No.


    Handguns

    * Permit to purchase handgun? No.

    * Registration of handguns? No.

    * Licensing of owners of handguns? No.

    * Permit to carry handguns? No.


    Other Requirements

    * Is there a State waiting period? No.

    * Is there a FBI *NICS check for firearm transactions? No. State system.

    * Permit to carry a concealed weapon required? No.

    * Record of sale: Yes.

    *NICS - National Instant Check System

    Caution: This summary is meant for general purposes only. Firearm laws
    frequently change.

    Source: Department of the Treasury Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
    Firearms - State Laws And Published Ordinances - Firearms (23rd Edition
    – 2001)



    Psss. Pass it on. If you don't a million children in country of Rumpuckero. Will not be able to watch the Disney Channel
    this week.

    Do it for the children, please.
    If,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, YOU Realy want something done ? Do it Yourself ! http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/20255.html

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    I have done it myself and with others.
    I brought to the attention Genesee county parks preemption and it took a year for them to change. All parks in Genesee County. Now accept CPL/CCW. Open carry I'm not sure they accept it yet BUT they do know it is legal.

    Bishop Airport work for two year to rescind and remove no Gun sign on the doors. I talked with the officer in charge twice twice I was escorted by his hand on my coat out the front door and threatened with arrest. If I returned. Second time he said I was disturbing the peace. I looked around ( we were in the street at this time. ) and no one was in sight at all. Who are we disturbing, no one is here and beside you are the only one talking loud and calling names. Finally the sign came down.

    Genesee county office building No courts in this building, No Guns signs posted. I have talked to the attorney three times and she says to me. Yes I know there aren't legal. Well the still remain to this day.

    I bring it to the attention of many people all of the time.


    Thank you for the links http://www.micounties.org/

    I am registered

    The use of force is a last resort. One aspect of violence is that it is unpredictable. Although your initial intention may be to use limited force, once you have engaged in violence the consequences are unpredictable. Violence always brings about unexpected results and almost always provokes retaliation.

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    LaVere wrote:
    I have done it myself and with others.
    I brought to the attention Genesee county parks preemption and it took a year for them to change. All parks in Genesee County. Now accept CPL/CCW. Open carry I'm not sure they accept it yet BUT they do know it is legal.

    Bishop Airport work for two year to rescind and remove no Gun sign on the doors. I talked with the officer in charge twice twice I was escorted by his hand on my coat out the front door and threatened with arrest. If I returned. Second time he said I was disturbing the peace. I looked around ( we were in the street at this time. ) and no one was in sight at all. Who are we disturbing, no one is here and beside you are the only one talking loud and calling names. Finally the sign came down.

    Genesee county office building No courts in this building, No Guns signs posted. I have talked to the attorney three times and she says to me. Yes I know there aren't legal. Well the still remain to this day.

    I bring it to the attention of many people all of the time.


    Thank you for the links http://www.micounties.org/

    I am registered
    So Now How do We WAKE UP the rest of the Patriots out THERE ? I commend you on your efforts but Grass Roots Is the Way at the local Government . Just do it with Education in afrim polite way !

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    LaVere wrote:
    I have done it myself and with others.
    I brought to the attention Genesee county parks preemption and it took a year for them to change. All parks in Genesee County. Now accept CPL/CCW. Open carry I'm not sure they accept it yet BUT they do know it is legal.

    Bishop Airport work for two year to rescind and remove no Gun sign on the doors. I talked with the officer in charge twice twice I was escorted by his hand on my coat out the front door and threatened with arrest. If I returned. Second time he said I was disturbing the peace. I looked around ( we were in the street at this time. ) and no one was in sight at all. Who are we disturbing, no one is here and beside you are the only one talking loud and calling names. Finally the sign came down.

    Genesee county office building No courts in this building, No Guns signs posted. I have talked to the attorney three times and she says to me. Yes I know there aren't legal. Well the still remain to this day.

    I bring it to the attention of many people all of the time.


    Thank you for the links http://www.micounties.org/

    I am registered
    Regardless if they know its legal or not, Open Carry is legal in the park.

    County park + State Operated = Legal Open Carry.
    The only terrorists I see nowadays are at the Capital.


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    Tucker6900 wrote:
    LaVere wrote:
    I have done it myself and with others.
    I brought to the attention Genesee county parks preemption and it took a year for them to change. All parks in Genesee County. Now accept CPL/CCW. Open carry I'm not sure they accept it yet BUT they do know it is legal.

    Bishop Airport work for two year to rescind and remove no Gun sign on the doors. I talked with the officer in charge twice twice I was escorted by his hand on my coat out the front door and threatened with arrest. If I returned. Second time he said I was disturbing the peace. I looked around ( we were in the street at this time. ) and no one was in sight at all. Who are we disturbing, no one is here and beside you are the only one talking loud and calling names. Finally the sign came down.

    Genesee county office building No courts in this building, No Guns signs posted. I have talked to the attorney three times and she says to me. Yes I know there aren't legal. Well the still remain to this day.

    I bring it to the attention of many people all of the time.


    Thank you for the links http://www.micounties.org/

    I am registered
    Regardless if they know its legal or not, Open Carry is legal in the park.

    County park + State Operated = Legal Open Carry.
    YOU are right . If though one speaks at a public meeting challenging any untruths in a public meeting one gets heard by more than one ! Not everyone is good at everything so some have to step up . Nice to speak to employee but even better to sit and converse with boss .

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    (I have done it myself and with others.
    I brought to the attention Genesee county parks preemption and it took a year for them to change. All parks in Genesee County. Now accept CPL/CCW. Open carry I'm not sure they accept it yet BUT they do know it is legal.)

    I understand that.

    Many of us do not have the where with all to stand up and face verbal or real conflicts. That does not mean we/they are not supportive in many other ways. Some can contribute just moral support, others financial support, and yet others no support and for many very good reasons.

    In the last two or so year I have seen great changes in the positive pro gun movement in Michigan. I'm sure more is yet to come. Thank you to all of you that are working on it in front and behind the seans. I think that our common goal is the Vermont regulations or the lack of should I say. And ASAP.

    As a born and life resident of Michigan for 66 years, I have seen our freedom eroded to nearly enslavement. One can hardly do anything without permission from the Government, pay for a permit to do or taxed after you do it.

    What have we brought upon our self's in the name of peace, freedom, safety, and you fill in the hundreds of other (in the name's of __________).

    Every time we win back what is our to begin with. We get confusion, miss interpretation, out right lies, more forms, other regulation to explain the changes, exception for the exempt class of special people and another fee.


    Think of the money and manpower the state could save with Vermont 's lack of regulations. What would you spend your money on if you didn't have to pay close to $300.00 on fees.





    The use of force is a last resort. One aspect of violence is that it is unpredictable. Although your initial intention may be to use limited force, once you have engaged in violence the consequences are unpredictable. Violence always brings about unexpected results and almost always provokes retaliation.

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    LaVere wrote:
    (I have done it myself and with others.
    I brought to the attention Genesee county parks preemption and it took a year for them to change. All parks in Genesee County. Now accept CPL/CCW. Open carry I'm not sure they accept it yet BUT they do know it is legal.)

    I understand that.

    Many of us do not have the where with all to stand up and face verbal or real conflicts. That does not mean we/they are not supportive in many other ways. Some can contribute just moral support, others financial support, and yet others no support and for many very good reasons.

    In the last two or so year I have seen great changes in the positive pro gun movement in Michigan. I'm sure more is yet to come. Thank you to all of you that are working on it in front and behind the seans. I think that our common goal is the Vermont regulations or the lack of should I say. And ASAP.

    As a born and life resident of Michigan for 66 years, I have seen our freedom eroded to nearly enslavement. One can hardly do anything without permission from the Government, pay for a permit to do or taxed after you do it.

    What have we brought upon our self's in the name of peace, freedom, safety, and you fill in the hundreds of other (in the name's of __________).

    Every time we win back what is our to begin with. We get confusion, miss interpretation, out right lies, more forms, other regulation to explain the changes, exception for the exempt class of special people and another fee.


    Think of the money and manpower the state could save with Vermont 's lack of regulations. What would you spend your money on if you didn't have to pay close to $300.00 on fees.





    As a born and life resident of Michigan for57 3/4years, I have seen our freedom eroded to nearly enslavement.And it took me 20 years to notice then to try to change it back . You said it elequintly With wisdom now how to wake the sleepers ?

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