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    http://yakimaherald.com/stories/2009...o-stop-assault

    From the YakimaHerald.com Online News.
    [line] Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2009

    Man shot with own gun while trying to stop assault

    Yakima Herald-Republic PARKER — A 30-year-old Yakima man was shot in the leg with his own shotgun Monday while trying to help a woman who was being assaulted, Yakima County sheriff’s deputies said.
    The wound was not life-threatening, according to a news release by Sgt. Jeff Gillespie.
    The incident was reported about 9:15 a.m. near the historical marker on southbound U.S. Highway 97 just south of Union Gap.
    The man told authorities he saw a woman being assaulted in a parked car and pulled over to help. He approached the car with a shotgun he had in his pickup, but the suspect ran into the nearby orchard, Gillespie said.
    As the victim was trying to retrieve his cell phone from his truck, the suspect returned and picked up the shotgun, which the victim had set on the ground.
    The suspect shot the victim once in the leg, deputies said. The injured man was then able to grab the shotgun and drive himself to Yakima Regional Medical and Cardiac Center.
    The suspect and the woman with him apparently left the area in the suspect’s car before deputies arrived, Gillespie said. Authorities had not found them by late afternoon.
    The suspect was about 5 feet 10 inches tall and 170 pounds, with black hair.
    The suspect’s vehicle was described as a maroon 1980s Ford Escort. The rear bumper, as well as the front bumper on the driver’s side, are primer gray.
    Anyone with information about the case may call the sheriff’s office at 574-2500.
    Gillespie said that witnesses should report such incidents quickly to police without trying to approach those involved.


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    Wow...it's a shame someone willing to be a good citizen suffered from such a poorly timed moment of utter and complete stupidity.

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    Makes me want to look at the guy and ask...Why'd you put it down?

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    I guess in the guy's defense there could be more to it than is in the article. He shouldn't of put the gun down, of course, but there may be more that we don't know.

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    cynicist wrote:
    He shouldn't of put the gun down, of course, but there may be more that we don't know.

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    That was the point.

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    Once again proves the importance of training and practice. Training would have taught him that shotguns need slings.

    Good for the citizen standing up and doing his duty.

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    So, if you see someone being assaulted, and you happen to be armed and can help, you're supposed to call the police and wait???????? WTF?????
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    Cougar125 wrote:
    Makes me want to look at the guy and ask...Why'd you put it down?
    +1

    I know I am more than capable of calling 911 with one hand... No need to put the firearm down, and if you are going to put it down. Put it back in your truck.

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    cynicist wrote:
    I guess in the guy's defense there could be more to it than is in the article. He shouldn't of put the gun down, of course, but there may be more that we don't know.

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    I agree, who knows why he put it down. There could be more to this. I mean, maybe the lady was freaking out because he had a shotgun and was not calming down. Maybe put to down to calm her. I cannot believe the criminal walked back there knowing the guy was armed. If it were me I would have been running as fast as I could doing the serpentine manuever.

    I would agree that under any circumstance you should not put down the gun though. USMC taught me better than that.

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    Cougar125 wrote:
    Makes me want to look at the guy and ask...Why'd you put it down?
    Hello anyone home

    What was he thinking.

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    He gets props from me for wanting to be a good citizen, minus a few points for not being well executed. Also sounds like it was a domestic dispute , ask any cop those are the ones they least want to get invovled in, to many emotions running high.
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    One has to wonder if he really shot himself because he had a loaded shotgun in his truck and played it out as if he was shot by a criminal. Both the suspect and the initial victim left the scene? There is something that is wrong with this picture.
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    I considered that. From what I can tell he is the only witness to the whole thing, so we don't really know.

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    Him being the only witness is the bothersome part. I have had too many friends and family arrest for incidents that are eerily similar to this one because of a firearms violation to really believe the story unfolded as told.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    One has to wonder if he really shot himself because he had a loaded shotgun in his truck and played it out as if he was shot by a criminal. Both the suspect and the initial victim left the scene? There is something that is wrong with this picture.
    Not at all unusual for a domestic. I would not have been surprised at all if the victim was the one who grabbed the shotgun and shot her protector, to help beloved escape. In my experience more like par for the course.
    I'd be willing to bet that over 75% of that time if your stop a woman from being beaten by her spouse as soon as you get the better of him she will turn on you and attack you to defend him. Not at all surprised that the victim left with the assailant either by choice or out of fear. Part of the sick cycle of abuse

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    LongRider wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    One has to wonder if he really shot himself because he had a loaded shotgun in his truck and played it out as if he was shot by a criminal. Both the suspect and the initial victim left the scene? There is something that is wrong with this picture.
    Not at all unusual for a domestic. I would not have been surprised at all if the victim was the one who grabbed the shotgun and shot her protector, to help beloved escape. In my experience more like par for the course.
    I'd be willing to bet that over 75% of that time if your stop a woman from being beaten by her spouse as soon as you get the better of him she will turn on you and attack you to defend him. Not at all surprised that the victim left with the assailant either by choice or out of fear. Part of the sick cycle of abuse
    Agreed but nothing flat out says that it was a domestic incident.
    "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity."

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    joeroket wrote:
    LongRider wrote:
    joeroket wrote:
    One has to wonder if he really shot himself because he had a loaded shotgun in his truck and played it out as if he was shot by a criminal. Both the suspect and the initial victim left the scene? There is something that is wrong with this picture.
    Not at all unusual for a domestic. I would not have been surprised at all if the victim was the one who grabbed the shotgun and shot her protector, to help beloved escape. In my experience more like par for the course.
    I'd be willing to bet that over 75% of that time if your stop a woman from being beaten by her spouse as soon as you get the better of him she will turn on you and attack you to defend him. Not at all surprised that the victim left with the assailant either by choice or out of fear. Part of the sick cycle of abuse
    Agreed but nothing flat out says that it was a domestic incident.
    You are right. A perfect example of how two people can look at the same set of facts and come to completely different conclusions.

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    It was the grey primer on the car that lead me down that road......LOL....j/k
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    SpyderTattoo wrote:
    So, if you see someone being assaulted, and you happen to be armed and can help, you're supposed to call the police and wait???????? WTF?????
    LOL. This made me laugh.

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    Good Description of assailant and his car, except it would be helpful if they mentioned the race of the assailant. Of course, that would be politically incorrect.

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