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    In about 5 months... I'm moving back to california. We cant get a good paying job here, and we can get almost 2x as much in CA. were keeping the UT house for awhile, get a renter or something. been getting back into shape to join the military (i PRAY that if i join the natl guard in KY, that ill be able to stay stationed there) i can NOT stay in CA, i hate it there lol, im sure you all do too though XD

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    you might make 2x there, but it costs 3x as much to live there.

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    Ah, its not nearly as bad as many would make it out to be...

    We do need more liberty-minded folks out here to offset theBradys and Che disciples though.
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    Thediscgolfkid wrote:
    In about 5 months... I'm moving back to california. We cant get a good paying job here, and we can get almost 2x as much in CA. were keeping the UT house for awhile, get a renter or something. been getting back into shape to join the military (i PRAY that if i join the natl guard in KY, that ill be able to stay stationed there) i can NOT stay in CA, i hate it there lol, im sure you all do too though XD
    Blacksmith !!! You bringing Thediscgolfkid back !!! NOOOOOOOOOO...:celebrate

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    UTOC-45-44 wrote:
    Blacksmith !!! You bringing Thediscgolfkid back !!! NOOOOOOOOOO
    Why not? If he is moving to Kali, might as well use his alter ego!
    "An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life." Robert A. Heinlein

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    SGT Jensen wrote:
    UTOC-45-44 wrote:
    Blacksmith !!! You bringing Thediscgolfkid back !!! NOOOOOOOOOO
    Why not? If he is moving to Kali, might as well use his alter ego!
    Good one SGT ...:celebrate

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    I also heard that CA is going bankrupt and has decided to raise taxes to get out of their Billion dollar debt. So good luck with that.

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    AHHH i was logged onto thediscgolfkid! alot of people hated him



    its okay though, my brother and i have decided to join the army natl. guard, so we might be seein kevin! i just have some Q's first, because im thinking of being a medic, but im not sure if i should... i dont wanna be in the middle of a firefight (not a firefighter.) so yeah, kevin give me a call, i have some Q's about it. i dont know what im gonna do in my future, so i know that the army will straighten out my train of thought

    and im thinkin of enlisting in KY, so i can be based there for awhile, because alicia lives there, and i plan on buying a house there

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    and I also heard that CA is secceeding from the nation

    guess that fault line was workin aye? gonna fall off into the sea!

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    You know, the 68w(combat medic) school is right down the road from my training company, and if you would like, I can get one of them to answer your questions about that particular MOS.

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    AHHH i was logged onto thediscgolfkid! alot of people hated him



    its okay though, my brother and i have decided to join the army natl. guard, so we might be seein kevin! i just have some Q's first, because im thinking of being a medic, but im not sure if i should... i dont wanna be in the middle of a firefight (not a firefighter.) so yeah, kevin give me a call, i have some Q's about it. i dont know what im gonna do in my future, so i know that the army will straighten out my train of thought

    and im thinkin of enlisting in KY, so i can be based there for awhile, because alicia lives there, and i plan on buying a house there
    Isn't Kevin/Sgt. Jensen in Iraq? At least that was what I thought.

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    Yes I am. I guess he thinks that if we are both in the Army, we could see each other more often. Nothing could be further from the truth! I am surrounded by strangers!
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    sure! medic is a great thing to be. i heard that the medics can get a hospital job pretty easily after their service in the military.

    and i was kinda hoping that if i was shipped out, i would get to see kevin, but the chances of me even being within 100 MILES ofhim would probably be around 1 in 1000 lol



    would be pretty awesome if we did bump into each other! i have a feeling that my bro and i would get sent to afghanistan though... unless KY gets enough problems of their own to deal with!

    what are some good MOS's, like with an average asvab score? i heard truck drivers are always in demand... im just thinkin of a backup plan incase i cant make medic or MP

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    what are some good MOS's, like with an average asvab score? i heard truck drivers are always in demand... im just thinkin of a backup plan incase i cant make medic or MP
    Do not become an MP! You will hate your life! It has nothing to do with what you might be thinking of.

    You should check out the "High school to flight school" program. You could fit into the cockpit of a helicopter pretty nicely! I believe Tucker(rocknsnow) is in flight school as we speak.
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    ConditionThree wrote:
    Ah, its not nearly as bad as many would make it out to be...

    We do need more liberty-minded folks out here to offset theĀ*Bradys and Che disciples though.
    +1

    California has its problems alright, but it really doesn't live up to all the (negative) hype.

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    sure! medic is a great thing to be. i heard that the medics can get a hospital job pretty easily after their service in the military.

    and i was kinda hoping that if i was shipped out, i would get to see kevin, but the chances of me even being within 100 MILES ofhim would probably be around 1 in 1000 lol



    would be pretty awesome if we did bump into each other! i have a feeling that my bro and i would get sent to afghanistan though... unless KY gets enough problems of their own to deal with!

    what are some good MOS's, like with an average asvab score? i heard truck drivers are always in demand... im just thinkin of a backup plan incase i cant make medic or MP
    11B and go to Georgia.

    I have been considering enlisting in the regular Army, or perhaps the USMC....I would want to be an infantryman though and maybe go to airborne or air assault school.

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    If you want to guarantee a slot in Airborne school, then you could go 92R, which is a parachute rigger, and airborne school is a prerequisite.

    If you want to go airborne, then the marines will be the hardest route. Airborne for Marines is reserved for Marine force recon. So you would need to be in real good shape.

    Truck driver, which is 88M has one of the highest fatality rates in the military currently. You would be doing convoys and risking roadside bombs a lot. They train at Ft. Leonard Wood.

    11B does a lot of ruck marches. You ruck everywhere. Ft Benning.

    68W, (combat medic) can go M6, which is a licensed practitional nurse is a good MOS.
    But you must pass W school, then go to M6 school, and if you don't pass M6, you're stuck as a W. You would train at FT. Sam, in the 232 med bn, then at C 264.

    If you like computers then 25B would be a good one. That's computer intel. You would train at FT. Gordon, which tends to be a good training post.

    68E is a Dental specialist, and they train at 187 med bn.

    Any of that help?

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    what job would be least likely to deploy to a diff country, but is still useable when i get out of the military? (for a normal civvy job)

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    just took the practive ASVAB on military.com (had to register and stuff so a recruiter is gonna call for me to ask ?'s about the nat guard) and heres what i scored in the categories...

    Gen. science: 44%

    Arithmatic reasoning: 63.3%

    Word knowledge: 80%

    Paragraph comprehension: 86.7%

    Auto & shop info: 56%

    Mathematics knowledge: 44%

    Mechanical comprehension: 48%

    Electronics info: 35%

    any idea what job id be best at or if i would even PASS the asvab? i heard that you have to score 50 minimum for national guard... but then i heard it was 35, 31, all kinds of answers... 31 for army, 35 for navy, etc. you'd think that natl guard and army requirements would be the same

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    The minimum score requirements for Army is a 31. You have obviously done better than that.

    There is no difference between Army and Army National Guard.

    Marines require a 32, Navy a 35, Air force a 36, and Coast Guard a 36.

    I gotta say though, at the moment, unless you get a non-deployable MOS, pretty much any job will get you deployed. Unfortunately. The real question is where would you get deployed.

    If you took a medical job, you may be in either a combat support hospital, which would get deployed to any area of operations, such as Iraq or Afganistan.

    But others might get you deployed to countries outside of the fighting zones. And that would be preferable to most people.

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    i dont want to get deployed, but if i had a choice, id rather be deployed to a combat zone rather than some sissy country like france im not really sure what i want to be yet, im a very indecisive person when it comes to a job, which is why i wanted military... to hope to give me some direction, you know?

    P.S. i heard that CA-NG do NOT deploy. is this true? ill ask the CA forum too, but ill have to include OC to stay on topic

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    mmk so ive been lookin into medic, and it looks pretty good, i may or may not do it (might not have the option, right?) i found out its like 5 months of AIT(?) id say gettin paid for 5 months of work is worth it in itself!

    while in AIT, can i see family? leave base? go on the comp often?

    if you fail AIT for medic school the first time, you get sent to a different company (i think) and if you fail it again, youre pretty much screwed and have to find another MOS... so... lets say i get a 50,000$ bonus for choosing medic... if i dropped out (which would probably not happen because im a study boy haha) and the army gives me another MOS, would i lose the bonus for signing up as combat medic?

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    The AFQT is comprised of your test results in Arithmetic Reasoning (AR), Math Knowledge (MK), and Verbal Composite (VE) x 2. Your Verbal Composite score is a combination of your Word Knowledge and Paragraph Comprehension scores.
    Check out the following AFQT qualifying scores for each branch of service.

    army minimum is 31 AFQT...

    word knowledgex2+paragraph compx2+arithmetic reasoning+math knowledge = your AFQT right? i scored 112, and the min for 68w was somethin like 70+ so im pretty much set lol. i was so worried about my score! the score WAS how many i answered correct in each category, right?

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    word knowledgex2+paragraph compx2+arithmetic reasoning+math knowledge = your AFQT right? i scored 112, and the min for 68w was somethin like 70+ so im pretty much set lol. i was so worried about my score! the score WAS how many i answered correct in each category, right?
    No, the score you received for each part of the test is a percentage.

    Also, it is not possible to receive an AFQT score higher than 99.

    AFQT scores are not raw scores, but rather percentile scores indicating how each examinee performed compared with all other examinees.

    If your AFQT score was 112, this would mean that you scored better than 112 percent of all other examinees.

    Your AFQT score should have been given to you, along with your GT score.
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    If you fail out of W school you may risk losing your bonus.
    Really depends on your unit if you join a reserve component.

    When you're in AIT what privileges you have depends on your phase.
    Just like at basic.

    When you first get there you will be Phase 4. You have to attend formations on the weekends, you cannot go off post, you cannot smoke or drink, and you cannot ride in or drive a Privately Owned Vehicle.

    After roughly four weeks, if you pass your PT test, are not pending any UCMJ, and are in good academic standing, then you will be "phased" to phase 5, which allows you to smoke, drink, go off post, ride in and drive POVs, you can apply for overnight passes on the weekends, wear civilian clothes, and you won't have to attend formations on the weekends.

    If you are at AIT long enough, and remain in good standing you will reach phase 5+ which allows overnight passes on the weekends, you can live off post if you so desire, and you no longer need a "battle buddy"

    IMHO, the battle buddy system is just another way to justify mass punishment in the training environment.

    "Well he did it, but you're his battle buddy so it's your fault to, as a matter of fact, it's the entire companies fault! You're all battle buddies! You're all in trouble!"

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