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    I have been dining at Waffle House all of my life. It is one of my favorite places to eat. But last night I had a confrontation with one of the employees at this particular restaurant. I didn't get his name. But I think he was the only one working the register at the time. He looked to be in his fifties and had longer black hair. He was about 5'8". It was Sunday, about 10:45PM. He was not my server, but he checked me out at the register. And while doing so, he asked me if I was a police officer? I said no. And he said that I wasn't supposed to be carrying a firearm on the premises if I wasn't a police officer. I told him that I have a permit issued by the state and I am legally allowed to carry anywhere that doesn't serve alcohol. I asked him if there was a sign posted stating what he told me? And he threw his hand up and said "somewhere around here". I eat out often at many other restaurants and I never encounter problems like this. The State of Tennessee issues handgun carry permits that specify the permit holder can carry open or concealed, so long as the place doesn't serve alcohol or the business doesn't have a sign posted prohibiting firearms. Please let me know where corporate stands on this issue, because it will determine whether or not I will remain a Waffle House customer. Thanks, Jason Huskey



    Dear Mr. Huskey:

    Thank you for contacting us about your experience in Brentwood, Tennessee. We appreciate our guests taking the time to inform us about their experiences.

    We apologize for the situation you experienced at our restaurant. No fire arms, guns, knives or other potentially dangerous weapons of any kind are allowed on Waffle House property, except in the possession of a law enforcement officer (with proper identification and credentials and/or in uniform) or a security guard (in uniform). Anyone else is asked to leave their weapon locked in their car while dining in the restaurant. Even if you have a license to carry a concealed weapon, this does NOT give you the right to carry it on to private property, such as Waffle House restaurants. Since this location is owned by Southeast Waffles, LLC, we have forwarded your message to the franchise owner. Our goal is to make sure that our guests receive exceptional service and quality products.

    Thank you again for sharing your experience with us. We express our regret and hope that we have the opportunity to serve you again soon.

    Sincerely,

    Dennis
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    Another place that won't get my business!!!!:celebrate

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    Small loss. I have found Waffle House food to be mediocre and overpriced.

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    So, only cops are allowed to use knives to cut their waffles? I guess they have to bring their own knives?

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    Well, cops and mall security

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    I have never had a problem with the one in Franklin @ Hy 96 & I 65

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    the police are the only people they know of who are PROFESSIONAL ENOUGH to carry "dis glock foty"

    taken from that great youtube video:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhIJOVD8hwY




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    All waffle house restaurants I have been to in TN are improperly posted with a sign on the outside wall in the parking lot - improperly posted, but still posted. You might get away with carrying there, but if they ask you to leave and you come back armed a week or a month later and they remember you it could lead to a criminal trespass charge.

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    They'll never charge me with anything because I have no intention of ever setting foot back in there again!

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    ...mine has no posting in Tx...I took a gun off a young man there last year after he had a negligent discharge in his pocket...(may have had one in his pants, too...not my job)...and held it and him for the police to deal with...noone ever knew I was armed...one time when CC was beneficial...

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    The email they sent me came from wafflehouse.service@na.ko.com.

    But a guy named Swain Reeves? I think, called me and left a voicemail. He said he was the district manager for Franklin and Brentwood, TN. His phone # is (615) 218-8063.

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    Oh, and Dennis, I guess, wasn't brave enough to put his last name on there. And there was no address, but I believe it came from their corporate office in Atlanta.

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    I just e-mailed Wafflehouse asking for clarification. I also let them know that if they do in fact have a no firearm policy that I will no longer be eating in their restaurants. My personal safety is first and I can always find a firearm friendly restaurant.

    We shall see what they say of if they respond. The more of us who contact them the better.

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    Thanks alot SDguy! You've got that right. There are plenty of other places to eat that don't mind a sidearm! And those are the places that'll be getting my money from now on!

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    Below is a copy of what the Waffle House send back to me in an e-mail. My response is listed first so you need to scroll down to see what they send me back.



    I appreciate your quick reply. Due to your no firearms policy I will no longer take any meals at any of your Waffle House restaurants. In addition, I will inform my firearm (firearm is a single word) carrying associates who also carry legallyof your policy so they too can decide not to eat at Waffle House restaurants.



    NormChristopherson



    -----Waffle House Service <wafflehouse.service@na.ko.com> wrote: -----


    To: xxxxxx
    From: Waffle House Service <wafflehouse.service@na.ko.com>
    Date: 03/09/2009 09:07PM
    Subject: RE: Firearms in your restaurant

    Dear Mr. Christopherson:

    At the Waffle House Guest Response Line, we received your inquiry today regarding our firearm policy. Thank you for taking the time to send us your question.

    No fire arms, guns, knives or other potentially dangerous weapons of any kind are allowed on Waffle House property, except in the possession of a law enforcement officer (with proper identification and credentials and/or in uniform) or a security guard (in uniform). Anyone else is asked to leave their weapon locked in their car while dining in the restaurant.

    Even if the customer has a license to carry a concealed weapon, this does NOT give them the right to carry it on to private property, such as Waffle House restaurants.

    Thanks so much for writing, Mr. Christopherson. We appreciate your interest and look forward to seeing you in one of our neighborhood restaurants soon.


    Sincerely,

    Kelly
    Waffle House Customer Support

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    So... if you're inna Waffle House 'n there's a robbery (or worse) you're gonna be one of the sheep. No thanx. I think I OC'd in one of 'em here 'couple years ago on Ina Rd.early in the mornin'. (I don't keep track of where I carry... only where I can't.) Real simple solution... don't patronize 'em... conduct your own boycott among your armed friends as well.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    So... if you're inna Waffle House 'n there's a robbery (or worse) you're gonna be one of the sheep. No thanx. I think I OC'd in one of 'em here 'couple years ago on Ina Rd.early in the mornin'. (I don't keep track of where I carry... only where I can't.) Real simple solution... don't patronize 'em... conduct your own boycott among your armed friends as well.
    Why not send them an e-mail message telling them so. In this economy restaurants are hurting for customers. Our no patronage messages mean more these days than anytime in the past.

    The Waffle House e-mail address is listed several times in this thread.

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    It's too bad a national joint like Waffle House would ask that its patrons be disarmed. Granted I don't frequent Waffle House, but of the few that I've been to I've only ever run across one that had any sort of signage and I didn't notice it until I had been seated about 30 minutes. This Waffle House was in the area of the Charlotte NC airport and the brown "No Firearms" sign was placed up near the ceiling on the brown wall.

    Perhaps John or Mike can place a link to this topic on the national parts of the forum so other gun-owners can know that Waffle House does not believe their safety is of their concern.

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    I just completed the carry course to carry in TN. The TBI agent that conducted the course made the following comment: "If a place of business post signage restricting the carry of weapons on it's premise, you could be charged with carrying a weapon with the purpose of going armed if you violate it. They can also make a verbal statement to you that carries the same weight". He went on to say that he and other law enforcement officers do not recommend "Open Carry" due to situations you mention and also due to the fact that it makes you "Priority One" to any criminal that may decide to commit a robbery. If there is no signage and you conceal carry, there would be no reason for this employee to make such a verbal declaration and all would be happy. Your best bet would be to tuck it in and find a restaurant with better food.

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    HellsHammer wrote:
    He went on to say that he and other law enforcement officers do not recommend "Open Carry" due to situations you mention and also due to the fact that it makes you "Priority One" to any criminal that may decide to commit a robbery.
    BS! There is absolutely NO data (or history) to back that 'projection' up! BG's who commit robbery are gonna go for the easiest prey with the least amount of observed personal risk to themselves.

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    Well I can produce no "data" that the tooth fairy exists either but I still got my money. I'm not making a decision on this for anyone else but I really don't have the time to spend all day with the hassles that OC brings. You can't tell me that if there is a robbery in progress and you step around the corner unaware with a piece on your hip that "you" will not become the number one focus of the BG. He may run away and that's OK, but he may be some dumbass kid that is already scared to death and he may panic and shoot you anyway CC or OC. If you are OC, he may demand that you give up your weapon. Oh yes if he is casing the joint and sees you OC in the store, he would probably not rob that store or at least wait until you leave. There cases to be made for OC and CC and neither is either wrong or right. It all depends on your situation. I CC for all the reasons mentioned all over this forum. Since I live in Nashville, it works for me. I have friends that used to OC but just got tired of all the hassles of store owners, private citizens calling 911, and well meaning law enforcement. My PD friend told me that LEO are trained to react to a gun. Even a good reaction will probably result in you stopping what you are doing and showing your permit. A bad reaction is also possible since you are dealing with humans. In the case of the individual that started this post, if he had CC'd, he would have had his weapon if it was needed for defense, the jerk at the counter would have not known about it, he would have enjoyed his meal without the hassle and being pissed off by the register jockey, and the world would have kept on going. If he wants to OC then that is his right too, but he has to be ready to spend a portion of his life to deal with other people's reactions, good and bad.

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    HellsHammer wrote:
    Well I can produce no "data" that the tooth fairy exists either but I still got my money. I'm not making a decision on this for anyone else but I really don't have the time to spend all day with the hassles that OC brings. You can't tell me that if there is a robbery in progress and you step around the corner unaware with a piece on your hip that "you" will not become the number one focus of the BG. He may run away and that's OK, but he may be some dumbass kid that is already scared to death and he may panic and shoot you anyway CC or OC. If you are OC, he may demand that you give up your weapon. Oh yes if he is casing the joint and sees you OC in the store, he would probably not rob that store or at least wait until you leave. There cases to be made for OC and CC and neither is either wrong or right. It all depends on your situation. I CC for all the reasons mentioned all over this forum. Since I live in Nashville, it works for me. I have friends that used to OC but just got tired of all the hassles of store owners, private citizens calling 911, and well meaning law enforcement. My PD friend told me that LEO are trained to react to a gun. Even a good reaction will probably result in you stopping what you are doing and showing your permit. A bad reaction is also possible since you are dealing with humans. In the case of the individual that started this post, if he had CC'd, he would have had his weapon if it was needed for defense, the jerk at the counter would have not known about it, he would have enjoyed his meal without the hassle and being pissed off by the register jockey, and the world would have kept on going. If he wants to OC then that is his right too, but he has to be ready to spend a portion of his life to deal with other people's reactions, good and bad.
    40 years ago blacks in the south could have said the same thing about sitting in the back of the bus, being refused service at white only restaurants and being forced to use special "black only" restrooms.

    They could have made the same claim, "It is too much of a hassle spending a good portion of your life dealing with other people's reactions".

    Since both both are rights issues my comparing them is a fair use of equivalency in arguement. I have a right to arm myself just as a black man has the same human rights as a white man.

    And, you want to give up those rights rather than educate the citizens and local authorities as to your rights. How sad I am for you.

    Free In South Dakota

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    HellsHammer wrote:
    Well I can produce no "data" that the tooth fairy exists either but I still got my money. I'm not making a decision on this for anyone else but I really don't have the time to spend all day with the hassles that OC brings. You can't tell me that if there is a robbery in progress and you step around the corner unaware with a piece on your hip that "you" will not become the number one focus of the BG. He may run away and that's OK, but he may be some dumbass kid that is already scared to death and he may panic and shoot you anyway CC or OC. If you are OC, he may demand that you give up your weapon. Oh yes if he is casing the joint and sees you OC in the store, he would probably not rob that store or at least wait until you leave. There cases to be made for OC and CC and neither is either wrong or right. It all depends on your situation. I CC for all the reasons mentioned all over this forum. Since I live in Nashville, it works for me. I have friends that used to OC but just got tired of all the hassles of store owners, private citizens calling 911, and well meaning law enforcement. My PD friend told me that LEO are trained to react to a gun. Even a good reaction will probably result in you stopping what you are doing and showing your permit. A bad reaction is also possible since you are dealing with humans. In the case of the individual that started this post, if he had CC'd, he would have had his weapon if it was needed for defense, the jerk at the counter would have not known about it, he would have enjoyed his meal without the hassle and being pissed off by the register jockey, and the world would have kept on going. If he wants to OC then that is his right too, but he has to be ready to spend a portion of his life to deal with other people's reactions, good and bad.
    The right to bear arms is a RIGHT. Rights do not require permits. We are not 'stopped' here in Arizona by PD/Sheriff to show anything... as these LEO's abide by the US and State Constitution(s). You are 'projecting' a situation that does not exist with open carry.This'is' the OCDOforum after all. I've carried that way since 1966 in AZ... w/o incident.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    The right to bear arms is a RIGHT. Rights do not require permits. We are not 'stopped' here in Arizona by PD/Sheriff to show anything... as these LEO's abide by the US and State Constitution(s). You are 'projecting' a situation that does not exist with open carry.This'is' the OCDOforum after all. I've carried that way since 1966 in AZ... w/o incident.
    I'm afraid you are projecting a situation that does not exist everywhere else too. I believe in rights too. I served in the military to help preserve them so I don't need to be lectured. That being said, try walking around in Nashville TN with a gun on your hip without a permit and you will be yelling about your rights through bars. Since the gentleman that started this thread was talking about a situation in TN, I was responding to conditions that exist in TN. I was not trying to argue the point for AZ residents and I damned sure don't think carring my gun CC equates to blacks riding in the back of the bus (as another gentleman stated). I'm not giving up my rights, I'm just exercising them and adapting to my surroundings. I know this is the OCDO forum but I see as much discussion here about CC as OC. Chill out Chief, I'm not the one you have to worry about trying to take your gun right away. I'm on your side.

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    BS. IF the place has a sign posted that is stated in the law, then i would be worried.

    BUT, if it is not posted according to law, from what i have read you can still carry, if

    the owner informs you that you cannot carry in his establishment, then you could be

    arrested for trespassing. It's just another leo that thinks he can tell others what HE

    wants others to do, instead of letting people know what the law says. Ignorance.

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