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US must enforce assault-gun import ban

ChuckUFarley

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Lawmakers: US must enforce assault-gun import ban
By E. EDUARDO CASTILLO – 19 hours ago

MEXICO CITY (AP) — More than 50 U.S. lawmakers sent a letter to President Barack Obama urging him to enforce a ban on importing assault weapons, saying many such guns are later smuggled south to arm Mexico's ruthless drug cartels.

"They come to the United States from Europe and other places, and they make their way down to Mexico," Rep. Eliot Engel, a New York Democrat, told reporters in Mexico City on Wednesday.

The ban was implemented under the administrations of President George H.W. Bush and President Bill Clinton, and the U.S. government can enforce it under provisions of the 1968 Gun Control Act.

But the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, has quietly abandoned the ban in recent years, the lawmakers said in their letter. The ATF declined to comment.

"As a result, the civilian firearms market is flooded with imported, inexpensive military-style assault weapons from primarily former Eastern bloc countries including Romania, Bulgaria and the former Yugoslavia," the letter said.

All 53 lawmakers who signed were Democrats.

The ATF estimates that 90 percent of weapons seized in Mexico come from sources within the United States. Mexico has long demanded that the U.S. do more to stop the flow of weapons south, and Obama has pledged to step up those efforts. Congress included $10 million in the economic stimulus package approved last week for the ATF's Project Gunrunner, which targets gun-trafficking networks in the U.S.

Mexico's drug violence has rapidly escalated despite President Felipe Calderon's deployment of 45,000 soldiers across the country to fight cartels. Drug gangs behead their rivals and attack police on a near daily basis, especially in cities near the U.S. border. Last year, more than 6,000 people were killed in drug violence, double the previous year's rate.

Mexican police frequently complain of being outgunned by drug gangs. In some small towns, entire police forces have quit in terror following attacks on their colleagues.

On Tuesday, federal police fighting gunmen in the northern border city of Reynosa had to call the army for help. After the fighting, which left five gunmen dead and seven police injured, authorities seized several assault rifles and even a 60 mm mortar.

In a recent report, the federal Attorney General's Office said Mexican authorities have seized the most weapons from the Gulf drug cartel and its gang of hit men, known as the "Zetas." Members of the cartel have been found with rocket launchers, grenade launchers, and weapons capable of piercing armor.
 

ChuckUFarley

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If this happens, i bet it will also ban foreign ammo, parts, accessories and anything else deemed capable of being used in semi auto weapons,

Because they can’t prove that guns here causes more crime (actually proven to reduce crime) they are now reaching and saying our having Guns in America is causing crime in Mexico.

WTF?
 

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Why do I find it hard to pass the smell test that their border security is that much better than ours? Oh, wait a minute, if it comes into the US it STILL has to go across their border before getting into Mexico right? How is that ANY different from it coming straight from, say, Romania to Mexico? :banghead:

And the problem is that crap like this will actually seem to make sense to some brainless/spineless (not sure which is more appropriate) legislator!

-adamsesq
 

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The assbags aren’t taking into account that it is easier for Mexico to get weapons from central and South America then the US but like you said they are brainless/spineless

:cuss:
 

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Hahaha. So for years they have been saying that weapons were smuggled into the U.S. too easily and tried to ban guns period for law-abiding citizens,now they are saying that weapons are smuggled out too easily and want to ban guns for law-abiding citizens. What are these guys thinking? Of course you know whats going to happen when ol' Obama and Rahm get ahold of their complaints...
 

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I have an idea. Let's build a big fence on the southern border and stop people from going back and forth with illegal guns.

Oh wait. We were and the Dems opposed it.
 

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adamsesq wrote:
SNIP How is that ANY different from it coming straight from, say, Romania to Mexico?

This is what I was thinking.

Of course, we all know that their stated reason isn't their real reason. It never is.
 
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