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    I am taking my family to potomic mills mall for the afternoon. Has anyone had any problems carring there?

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    Just be aware there are signs at entrances saying no weapons. The font is really small and the signs are out of the way, so it's easy to miss them.

    http://www.vcdl.org/static/gue.html#...20Mills%20Mall

    As you can see, they can only ask you to leave. Failure to leave is a trespassing charge. The sign has changed, but the intent is the same.

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    Thank you for the reply.

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    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group



    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....





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    marine2000 wrote:
    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group

    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....
    Cite?

    Landmark Mall in Alexandria removed its signs some time ago? Have you seen them recently?

    Springfield Mall is not posted, except on its (now-closed) theater, and on its website.
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    I haven't been there for ages....

    But ifIget the chance i will def. look it up.



    I do remember seeing a red sign with white lettering but then that was quite some time ago.

    I take my business elsewhere if our right to support 2A is being questioned.

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    marine2000 wrote:
    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group

    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....
    I'm not sure what you mean by "zero-tolerance" in this context.

    I've only seen this used in the context of schools, or similar, where they expel you for one violation of whatever it is that the "zero-tolerance" is supposed to be referring to, but in the case of private property, what can they do besides ask you to leave?

    I suppose worst case, they can ban you from the property, but that seems stupid even for the most rabid anti-gunner, who should still want you to come spend your money after you have removed your "offending" firearm.

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    marine2000 wrote:
    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group

    *

    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....
    Fashion Square mall in Charlottesville is owned by Simon and posted "no weapons of any kind"

    I don't go to the mall... Plenty of places to shop that allow me to carry.

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    Tess wrote:
    marine2000 wrote:
    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group

    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....
    Cite?

    Landmark Mall in Alexandria removed its signs some time ago? Have you seen them recently?

    Springfield Mall is not posted, except on its (now-closed) theater, and on its website.
    Agree. I've never seen a sign posted at Fair Oaks either.

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    I work at what might be the busiest little store in Fair Oaks mall after transferring from its big brother store at Tysons Corner. I see people OC there and CC there frequently and not a single manager or staff member has ever had a problem with it. I saw the same at Tysons as well and even the regional/corporate types don't seem to have any issue with OC/CC at our stores here. I think its kind of funny because alot of people might think our company is a bunch of hippies from the mother ship in cupertino.

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    og556 wrote:
    ...a bunch of hippies from the mother ship in cupertino.
    Oh, so you sell fruit!

    I wish I had one of those stores around here. Not that it matters if they never update the Mini, and never offer a mid-size, mid-range mini-tower in the $800-1200 category. In that case I'll be doomed to PC hardware and Hackintosh if I can get it working, or Ubuntu if I can't.

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    ccunning wrote:
    Tess wrote:
    marine2000 wrote:
    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group

    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....
    Cite?

    Landmark Mall in Alexandria removed its signs some time ago? Have you seen them recently?

    Springfield Mall is not posted, except on its (now-closed) theater, and on its website.
    Agree. I've never seen a sign posted at Fair Oaks either.
    there isn't a sign

    i work in the mall and know most of the guards. they say it's not an official policy, but they will ask you to leave if they see you.

    though, i've OC'd there quite a lot. and plan to tomorrow, as well

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    tsannicolas wrote:
    ccunning wrote:
    Tess wrote:
    marine2000 wrote:
    All these malls namely a few such as Potomac Mills Mall, Fair Oaks Mall, Landmark mall, Springfield Mall.....all belong to a chain namely Simons Group

    They all have zero-tolerance with firearms....
    Cite?

    Landmark Mall in Alexandria removed its signs some time ago?* Have you seen them recently?

    Springfield Mall is not posted, except on its (now-closed) theater, and on its website.
    Agree. I've never seen a sign posted at Fair Oaks either.
    there isn't a sign

    i work in the mall and know most of the guards.* they say it's not an official policy, but they will ask you to leave if they see you.

    though, i've OC'd there quite a lot.* and plan to tomorrow, as well
    If it isn't the property owners policy then do the security guards have the authority to make you leave? Would it be considered trespassing to ignore them?

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    ccunning wrote:
    If it isn't the property owners policy then do the security guards have the authority to make you leave? Would it be considered trespassing to ignore them?
    yes, the security guards have the authority to ask you to leave. and yes, it would be considered trespassing

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    tsannicolas wrote:
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    If it isn't the property owners policy then do the security guards have the authority to make you leave? Would it be considered trespassing to ignore them?
    yes, the security guards have the authority to ask you to leave. and yes, it would be considered trespassing
    This doesn't to add up to me. You're essentially saying the security guards are setting the effective policy without regard to the property owner's wishes.

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    ccunning wrote:
    tsannicolas wrote:
    ccunning wrote:
    If it isn't the property owners policy then do the security guards have the authority to make you leave? Would it be considered trespassing to ignore them?
    yes, the security guards have the authority to ask you to leave. and yes, it would be considered trespassing
    This doesn't to add up to me. You're essentially saying the security guards are setting the effective policy without regard to the property owner's wishes.
    Do we know it's not the property owners wishes? Just because they don't post doesn't mean they are not opposed to OC. Some business owners don't mind CC but oppose OC.
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    ccunning wrote:
    tsannicolas wrote:
    ccunning wrote:
    If it isn't the property owners policy then do the security guards have the authority to make you leave? Would it be considered trespassing to ignore them?
    yes, the security guards have the authority to ask you to leave. and yes, it would be considered trespassing
    This doesn't to add up to me. You're essentially saying the security guards are setting the effective policy without regard to the property owner's wishes.
    essentially, they're getting their directives from their superiors. i can only assume that since Simon group owns the mall, they follow their policy/procedure. though FOM has no signs posted, they can pretty much do whatever they want since they represent the company/owners

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    Wolf_shadow wrote:
    ccunning wrote:
    tsannicolas wrote:
    ccunning wrote:
    If it isn't the property owners policy then do the security guards have the authority to make you leave? Would it be considered trespassing to ignore them?
    yes, the security guards have the authority to ask you to leave. and yes, it would be considered trespassing
    This doesn't to add up to me. You're essentially saying the security guards are setting the effective policy without regard to the property owner's wishes.
    Do we know it's not the property owners wishes? Just because they don't post doesn't mean they are not opposed to OC. Some business owners don't mind CC but oppose OC.
    No we don't, but was curious to know what authority the guards had if they were not acting on the property owners wishes. I guess this isn't the place for hypothetical questions though

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    Carry concealed...I always do in there.

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