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New AR15 :)

jwidman

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I just ordered all the parts for the stripped lower I have coming in next week :celebrate

I think I may have to make another order and put together a AR15 pistol...that would likely get some :what: open carrying it around. I think I did fairly well post election, altogether my vanilla AR is only going to be around 750-800.



Product Product Code Quantity Price AR-15 Complete Lower parts Set
AR15LWRPARTSET 1 $60.00 M-16 Bolt and Carrier Assmebly
M-16 Bolt and Carrier Assmebly 1 $115.00 AR-15 Charging Handle, Complete
Charging Handle 1 $15.00 M4 5 Position Mil-Spec Stock Assembly
Color - Black M4StockAssy 1 $60.00 AR-15 16 Inch Pre-Ban M4 Flat Top Barrel Assembly
Barrel - Chrome Moly Bolt & Carrier - No Bolt and carrier Charging Handle - No Charging Handle Color - Black AR-15 16\\ 1 $325.00 Order Date/Time: Mar 01 2009, 19:06 PM Payment Method: mals-e Shipping Method: Flat Rate Subtotal: $575.00 Total Tax: $0.00 Shipping: $0.00 Grand Total: $575.00
 

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jwidman wrote:
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I think I may have to make another order and put together a AR15 pistol...that would likely get some :what: open carrying it around.


I hope you're joking. I would not want to be anywhere around someone that was open carrying an AR pistol. I don't care if it's okay, it's absurd.
 

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T Dubya wrote:
jwidman wrote:
SNIP

I think I may have to make another order and put together a AR15 pistol...that would likely get some :what: open carrying it around.


I hope you're joking. I would not want to be anywhere around someone that was open carrying an AR pistol. I don't care if it's okay, it's absurd.
Well as much as I would like to CC a AR15 pistol I don't think that would work too well :lol:
Don't worry, I probably only OC something like that at the range....probably :p
 

Kevin Jensen

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T Dubya wrote:
I hope you're joking. I would not want to be anywhere around someone that was open carrying an AR pistol. I don't care if it's okay, it's absurd.

You're right. I would rather be around someone openly carrying a fulllength AR. Greater accuracy at longer distances!

Grow up. A gun is a gun. Don't add fuel to the "evil, scary black rifle" crowd.
 

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i want an AR-15 myself I dont know where to start but now Im thinking about building one but I dont know where to start but it seems cheap.Im going to need help getting this thing done.I need the AR-15
 

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T Dubya wrote:
jwidman wrote:
SNIP

I think I may have to make another order and put together a AR15 pistol...that would likely get some :what: open carrying it around.


I hope you're joking. I would not want to be anywhere around someone that was open carrying an AR pistol. I don't care if it's okay, it's absurd.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Your AR15 is a registered RIFLE. You want to place a shorter upper on it and change the butstock to turn it into a PISTOL but you can't, see the firearm is a RIFLE by serial number, and nothing wil change that. You are actually proposing creating an SBR.

The only way (to my knowledge) to have a LEGAL AR pistol is to buy an AR designated from the factory as a PISTOL.
 

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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Your AR15 is a registered RIFLE. You want to place a shorter upper on it and change the butstock to turn it into a PISTOL but you can't, see the firearm is a RIFLE by serial number, and nothing wil change that. You are actually proposing creating an SBR.

The only way (to my knowledge) to have a LEGAL AR pistol is to buy an AR designated from the factory as a PISTOL.
I'm sure you are right. The only thing I can add is that I'm sure butstocks on a pistol is a no no unless you register it as an AOW.
 

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SGT Jensen wrote:
T Dubya wrote:
I hope you're joking. I would not want to be anywhere around someone that was open carrying an AR pistol. I don't care if it's okay, it's absurd.

You're right. I would rather be around someone openly carrying a fulllength AR. Greater accuracy at longer distances!

Grow up. A gun is a gun. Don't add fuel to the "evil, scary black rifle" crowd.


You grow up poopie face. Unless the government collapses,or you're going somewhere with theintent of getting some,open carrying an AR pistol is stupid and only a fuggin tool would do it.



Let's settle this: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/22530.html
 

Kevin Jensen

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T Dubya wrote:
I'm sure you are right. The only thing I can add is that I'm sure butstocks on a pistol is a no no unless you register it as an AOW.

If you add a buttstock to a pistol, it becomes a short barrelled rifle, not an AOW.

I still disagree, there is nothing wrong with carrying a rifle or shotgun, as opposed to a handgun.

Stop being anti-gun, poo-poo head. :X :p
 

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You guys are arguing theory vs reality. In theory a gun is a gun and it shouldn't matter. In reality a gun is not a gun and does matter. At the end of the day you might be able to get away with this but you are most likely, sooner vs later, going to get detained and possibly create more fright than trust.
 

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I still fail to see a problem. If I am willing to be detained for carring a firearm instead of a, well... firearm, then why should you care? :?

Would you feel uneasy at the sight ofme peaceably walking down the street with a rifle slung across my back?

Do you feel that I would somehow destroy the Second Amendment by exercising it?
 

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You can go from a AR-15 Pistol -> AR-15, but you have to pay the $200 "SBR" NFA tax.

A rifle cannot become a pistol.
 

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SGT Jensen wrote:
I still fail to see a problem. If I am willing to be detained for carring a firearm instead of a, well... firearm, then why should you care? :?

Would you feel uneasy at the sight ofme peaceably walking down the street with a rifle slung across my back?

Do you feel that I would somehow destroy the Second Amendment by exercising it?
Again, theoretically no it is not a problem. A gun is a gun. But in the REAL world there IS a difference and yes you CAN do damage to the gun MOVEMENT by not being smart about how you exercise it.

Its kinda like the quote:

“We cannot expect the Americans to jump from capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.”
–Soviet Leader Nikita Khrushchev, 1959


You can not effectively jump from carrying a 9mm on your hip....which is already pushing it in many areas....to carrying a rifle or modded AR15. It will immediately get rejected. Our movement needs baby steps. You can't desensitize in large steps. You have to nibble away at it in order to get to where we SHOULD be anyways. This is how we have begun to lose our rights and that is how we are going to have to regain them. Any jump directly to communism or to OC'd AR15s will quickly get rejected and, yes, be harmful for our movement. Baby steps.....
 

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From what I know.... when a firearm is made and is to be sold to the public it must have a few things. One is a serial number and another is that it has to be identified as either a rifle or pistol. Even if it not dressed out as one.

You CANNOT take an AR lower that has been stripped and turn it into a pistol version if it was registered as a rifle. Even if it was NEVER a rifle.

If you take the AR lower and add a SBR you risk 10 years in prison and $250,000 fine.

Please remember that there are laws in place that regulate the purchase and possession of handguns. You cannot circumvent the system by taking a rifle and turning it into a pistol.

Example: You cannot take your .22 rifle, chop off the stock and cut down the barrel making it into a pistol without filing some paperwork. That AR lower is the same thing.

You need to ask the ATF for permission to do that.

But you can always buy a pistol version AR lower. ;)
 
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