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Personally I think he is a Patriot...
http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/firearms43
Personally I think he is a Patriot...
http://www.ignatius-piazza-front-sight.com/firearms43
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Patriot or Traitor
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Sea_Chicken
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He is a patriot.
He is a patriot.
ChuckUFarley
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He is a patriot and brother in arms.
He is a patriot and brother in arms.
just_a_car
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Patriot.
Especially since he A) promotes utilizing and exhausting your peaceful avenues of patriotism and change before resorting to violent revolt and B) he makes his case using quotations from our Constitution and from many respected persons from our country's history... on both sides of the political spectrum.
Patriot.
Especially since he A) promotes utilizing and exhausting your peaceful avenues of patriotism and change before resorting to violent revolt and B) he makes his case using quotations from our Constitution and from many respected persons from our country's history... on both sides of the political spectrum.
arms_libertas
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Patriot.
It's interesting this was posted this week. A few days ago I was talking with a friend of mine who was in the Marine Corps about the cordon and search exercise that was reportedly supposed to happen in Ohio, etc. My main question was, what is the likelihood that US troops would choose not follow a direct order believing it was in direct conflict with the Constitution?
Police officers are not required to know and understand the law in the same way that a lawyer has to know the breadth of the law. Even lawyers don't know everything, meaning if they specialize in trust or environmental law they don't know the intricacies of tax or securities law. Can we really expect US soldiers to believe enough in their own judgment about what is legal and not legal to disobey orders? Especially when the legality of orders might be clouded by laws enacted specifically to make an activity legal, but the law authorizing it's legality is illegal?
If everyone (or at least the vast majority) in the military and law enforcement shared the same feelings as the soldier in the video then I am less concerned.
Patriot.
It's interesting this was posted this week. A few days ago I was talking with a friend of mine who was in the Marine Corps about the cordon and search exercise that was reportedly supposed to happen in Ohio, etc. My main question was, what is the likelihood that US troops would choose not follow a direct order believing it was in direct conflict with the Constitution?
Police officers are not required to know and understand the law in the same way that a lawyer has to know the breadth of the law. Even lawyers don't know everything, meaning if they specialize in trust or environmental law they don't know the intricacies of tax or securities law. Can we really expect US soldiers to believe enough in their own judgment about what is legal and not legal to disobey orders? Especially when the legality of orders might be clouded by laws enacted specifically to make an activity legal, but the law authorizing it's legality is illegal?
If everyone (or at least the vast majority) in the military and law enforcement shared the same feelings as the soldier in the video then I am less concerned.
Citizen
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Wow!
It occurred to me the other day that ifthis nationsucceeded in restoringfreedom, limited government, and the constitution, whether peacefully or otherwise, it wouldmake history. I don'tthink its happened before.
Wow!
It occurred to me the other day that ifthis nationsucceeded in restoringfreedom, limited government, and the constitution, whether peacefully or otherwise, it wouldmake history. I don'tthink its happened before.
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It needs to happen.We have an admin that is outside their minds.I.E It is not my obligation to pay for someone elses health care especially illegals. You are not entitled to anything you don't work for .People don't have a right to coverage simply because they exist.These insane baleouts will cost our grandchildren big time.....It doesn't work.We should all have the same opportunities but we are not resonsible for someone elses bad outcome and bad decisions.
My charitable contributions are decided by me not what the gov.says is acceptable.
People are entitled to housing as long as they pay for it themselves.It is not up to me to bale someone out of a bad motgage no matter who's fault it is.
I keep the money I earn.This tax the rich policy punishes people for success.It is these folks that hire others.Have you ever recieved a paycheck form a welfare recipient.??
I also have the right to raise my kids as I see fit ,teach them what I think is right.A couple of my children have never seen the inside of a public school and they are better off for it.
Cut back on these welfare programs to save money.Welfare should be paid based on someones earning potential or what they have already contributed.
It isnot of the governmants business what and how many guns I own.And to perpetuate these socialist policies they will have to disarm us.
We have to get back to the basics of the Constitution which built this country in the first place.Along with the hard work of individuals.We never started as a welfare state.
AsI said prior to the election I felt my money and gunrights eveporating.That is exactly what is happening.
It needs to happen.We have an admin that is outside their minds.I.E It is not my obligation to pay for someone elses health care especially illegals. You are not entitled to anything you don't work for .People don't have a right to coverage simply because they exist.These insane baleouts will cost our grandchildren big time.....It doesn't work.We should all have the same opportunities but we are not resonsible for someone elses bad outcome and bad decisions.
My charitable contributions are decided by me not what the gov.says is acceptable.
People are entitled to housing as long as they pay for it themselves.It is not up to me to bale someone out of a bad motgage no matter who's fault it is.
I keep the money I earn.This tax the rich policy punishes people for success.It is these folks that hire others.Have you ever recieved a paycheck form a welfare recipient.??
I also have the right to raise my kids as I see fit ,teach them what I think is right.A couple of my children have never seen the inside of a public school and they are better off for it.
Cut back on these welfare programs to save money.Welfare should be paid based on someones earning potential or what they have already contributed.
It isnot of the governmants business what and how many guns I own.And to perpetuate these socialist policies they will have to disarm us.
We have to get back to the basics of the Constitution which built this country in the first place.Along with the hard work of individuals.We never started as a welfare state.
AsI said prior to the election I felt my money and gunrights eveporating.That is exactly what is happening.
Tekman
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Former USN here. That man is a Patriot.
Former USN here. That man is a Patriot.
mb419
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AMEN!! Patriot all the way.
I was just talking to my wife about this the other day. I told her that we shouldn't be too worried about soldiers fighting citizens.
AMEN!! Patriot all the way.
I was just talking to my wife about this the other day. I told her that we shouldn't be too worried about soldiers fighting citizens.
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I have had private conversations with a couple of local LEOS that say they will not try to disarm the citizens like they did in New Orleans.Even if marshall law is declared which I think is coming.Using the current state of affairs as an excuse and therefore trying to disarm us.
I have had private conversations with a couple of local LEOS that say they will not try to disarm the citizens like they did in New Orleans.Even if marshall law is declared which I think is coming.Using the current state of affairs as an excuse and therefore trying to disarm us.
SpyderTattoo
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WOW!! I still have goosebumps. Patriot.
WOW!! I still have goosebumps. Patriot.
Shy_Panda
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Ajetpilot
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He gives me hope.
He gives me hope.
sudden valley gunner
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Patriot.
Patriot.
kparker
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I think we're going to be unanimous here.
I think we're going to be unanimous here.
Tawnos
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Neither patriot nor traitor, just another voice who posts quasi-anonymously on the internet. One who believes some stuff that sounds good (exhausting all possible means within the system to achieve goals before trying to destroy and restart), and other stuff that is absolute BS (shots causing autism).
Neither patriot nor traitor, just another voice who posts quasi-anonymously on the internet. One who believes some stuff that sounds good (exhausting all possible means within the system to achieve goals before trying to destroy and restart), and other stuff that is absolute BS (shots causing autism).
cynicist
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Like the "last of the mohicans" soundtrack though. Nice touch.
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Like the "last of the mohicans" soundtrack though. Nice touch.
sudden valley gunner
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He might be anonymous and everything said (immunity shot has been disproved to cause autism) might not be totally factual. But the things he has said points to a patriot someone who loves his country and is willing to fight the powers to be as a last resort, and I agree with the sentiment. I believe its one reason many of us open carry because we are fighting for our rights.
He might be anonymous and everything said (immunity shot has been disproved to cause autism) might not be totally factual. But the things he has said points to a patriot someone who loves his country and is willing to fight the powers to be as a last resort, and I agree with the sentiment. I believe its one reason many of us open carry because we are fighting for our rights.
3/325
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Even if you take out the claim regarding booster shots, there's MORE than enough cold hard facts available to replace it. I too swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and to defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic. The federal government is making it increasingly difficult for me to envision a peaceful return to liberty. It is hardwired into the nature of human beings that those who achieve power do not easily relinquish it. And it's no secret that power corrupts.
Even if you take out the claim regarding booster shots, there's MORE than enough cold hard facts available to replace it. I too swore an oath to uphold the Constitution and to defend it from all enemies, foreign and domestic. The federal government is making it increasingly difficult for me to envision a peaceful return to liberty. It is hardwired into the nature of human beings that those who achieve power do not easily relinquish it. And it's no secret that power corrupts.
Nitrox314
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arms_libertas wrote:
arms_libertas wrote:
I think a majority of the Marine Corps will side with the constitution. Did you know that about 2/3's of the USMC joined the south in the civil war? Having been an active duty Marine I can tell you they will side with the constitution.Not to offend anyone, but its the majorities in the Army, Navy and AirForce thatyou have to worry about.Of course if you look through history a majority of leaders had to offer up land to raise their armies. Very few joined for only the cause or the charisma of the leader. What you need is a "Chesty Puller" to lead a revolt. Charismatic, and people would follow him to their deaths if necessary.