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    Found it interesting, I wouldn't mind joining being the person I am. But I'm not 100% sure, I love guns and all I want to learn tactical things and the whole nine and wouldn't mind becoming a XE employee in the long run. I read about having to have experience and all I'm only 20 so I don't know where exactly to start.Wouldn't mind getting some help from my fellow open carriers. How do you feel on the group and etc?

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    Joed757 wrote:
    Found it interesting, I wouldn't mind joining being the person I am. But I'm not 100% sure, I love guns and all I want to learn tactical things and the whole nine and wouldn't mind becoming a XE employee in the long run. I read about having to have experience and all I'm only 20 so I don't know where exactly to start.Wouldn't mind getting some help from my fellow open carriers. How do you feel on the group and etc?
    Shouldn't be too hard to sort out.

    Just study up on soldiers-of-fortune, mercenaries, etc. The the tradeis better than 6000 years old. Although Blackwater has its differences from pure mercenaries, the similarities are close enough, I should think. Although some things have changed quite a bit since Xerxes collided with Leonidas, the most important thing of all has not changed--human nature, the good and the bad.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    I've trained there twice.





    The instruction was 1st rate. Best I ever had.

    I'm not sure I'd go to work there right now as the top 2 guys just resigned, and I think that current climate in DC will mean it will be harder for PMCs to find work.



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    I must say the guy in those pictures looks a lot tougher than the guy I've seen around.

    What a contrast in impressions!

    Great photos Bulldog!
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    Citizen wrote:
    I must say the guy in those pictures looks a lot tougher than the guy I've seen around.

    What a contrast in impressions!

    Great photos Bulldog!
    I'm incognito now.



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    Joed757 wrote:
    Found it interesting, I wouldn't mind joining being the person I am. But I'm not 100% sure, I love guns and all I want to learn tactical things and the whole nine and wouldn't mind becoming a XE employee in the long run. I read about having to have experience and all I'm only 20 so I don't know where exactly to start.Wouldn't mind getting some help from my fellow open carriers. How do you feel on the group and etc?
    Shouldn't be too hard to sort out.

    Just study up on soldiers-of-fortune, mercenaries, etc.テつ* The the tradeテつ*is better than 6000 years old.テつ* Although Blackwater has its differences from pure mercenaries, the similarities are close enough, I should think.テつ* Although some things have changed quite a bit since Xerxes collided with Leonidas, the most important thing of all has not changed--human nature, the good and the bad.
    Thats something I def will study on. Didnt know it went that far back.

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    I spent two weeks training there. Thoroughly enjoyed every minute (except the food - awful)




    I wouldnt mind working there myself!
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    Bulldog1967 wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    I must say the guy in those pictures looks a lot tougher than the guy I've seen around.
    I'm incognito now.
    That should work well. I make it a point not to inquire too closely into the identity of people dressed like that!!


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Bulldog I get what your saying. You trained in the NC part? I was thinking taking a class or two very expensive plus 2500 rounds of .45 bullets would cost more than the class itself. PMC work does seem slim now im guessing.I wouldnt be up for work for about 5 or 6 years anyways.

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    ProShooter wrote:
    I spent two weeks training there. Thoroughly enjoyed every minute (except the food - awful)




    テつ*I wouldnt mind working there myself!
    Not 1 person they protected has been killed ever.I got to find some way to get into the door. Dont want to join the military as of yet because, I dont want to be thought as the young male who just joins and gets sent off to irag in a month or two.

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    Bulldog, what's with the short hair and no beard? You're not getting old on us, are you? I'm growing some back, myself, try toblend in a little morewhen I walk into a room full of yuppies.

    Blackhawk, or Xe, or whatever they call themselves now, creep me out a little. I'd like to take their training, but I wouldn't want to work for them.

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    Bulldog, what's with the short hair and no beard?
    Like he said, he's incognito now.

    Can't think of a finer costume than one topped with an eagle, globe, and anchor.

    And, I am known far and wide for my impartiality.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Not 1 person they protected has been killed ever.I got to find some way to get into the door. Dont want to join the military as of yet because, I dont want to be thought as the young male who just joins and gets sent off to irag in a month or two.
    I have a number of friends and aquantainces who were/are employed by Blackwater. Combat experience is the quickest way to "get into the door." The only other relatively quick way is to join the military and be trained in an exotic MOS (EOD, sat coms, etc.) Learning a language (arabic, farsi) is also a plus.

    That being said, most of the real qualified, high speed guys go into the training side of things. The "operators" or whatever they are calling them nowadays have generally shorter resume's. Also, hearing my buddies' stories and in my experience working around Blackwater and other contractors overseas, the job is much less glamorous than it seems. The pay is nice, but you generally sit on your butt on a compound inside of a FOB for months at a time.

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    Joed757 wrote:
    Found it interesting...I'm not 100% sure...Wouldn't mind getting some help from my fellow open carriers. How do you feel on the group and etc?
    If you are in college finish your degree.

    If you want to do military work, the best place for a guy your age to get that training is in the military.

    Try to get (or finish) your degree.

    Then decide whether you want to spend your best years in parts of the world where you are distinctly unwelcome.
    Never mistake hospitality for friendship.



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    The easiest way to 'play soldier' is join the military. Don't be a pretender. Visit your local USMC recruiter, tell him you want to be an 0311.
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    VAopencarry wrote:
    The easiest way to 'play soldier' is join the military. Don't be a pretender. Visit your local USMC recruiter, tell him you want to be an 0311.
    Joed757,

    "0311" is Marine-speak for "infantry." Its the numerical designation for that specialty.


    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    I spent a week there in 2006, I took the 5 day Carbine Operators class.
    Kyle was my main instructor, he's now the head of firearms training there (good dude).

    It's some good instruction.

    If you've seen the Buick O'Truth pics etc of shooting with rifles/pistols that was done on the last day of the class I was in.






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    im def going to get my degree.Probably my masters and the thing I heard is you cant exceed a certain weight to move up in rankings what about the big fella who can move just as a smaller fellow.

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    VAopencarry wrote:
    The easiest way to 'play soldier' is join the military. Don't be a pretender. Visit your local USMC recruiter, tell him you want to be an 0311.
    Or 21B/1371

    "We lead the infantry"

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    Joed757 wrote:
    you cant exceed a certain weight to move up in rankings what about the big fella who can move just as a smaller fellow.
    Don't expect military (type) organizations to change their rules to accommodate you.

    Lose the lard or stay in the yard.

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    I'm not sure I'd go to work there right now as the top 2 guys just resigned, and I think that current climate in DC will mean it will be harder for PMCs to find work.

    There should be plenty of jobs for mercs in North Africa...just a thought.

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    W.E.G. wrote:
    Joed757 wrote:
    you cant exceed a certain weight to move up in rankings what about the big fella who can move just as a smaller fellow.
    Don't expect military (type) organizations to change their rules to accommodate you.

    Lose the lard or stay in the yard.
    I can respect a good 215 solid but going to 185 from 275+ isnt what i want.Playing in high school i operated a good 250 so 215 sounds resonable for me to get to but Im def not trying to be 185.

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    Joed757 wrote:
    Not 1 person they protected has been killed ever.I got to find some way to get into the door.
    I don't care how good the mercs are--there are holes in every security detail, regardless of how well thought out it is. A committed individual will find a way.

    Second, I keep hearing how Blackwater is so hot--they didn't do so well in Baghdad when those mercs massacred civilians...of course it is always easier to shoot at people who can't shoot back...

    just my .02 cents.

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    Bulldog, what's with the short hair and no beard? You're not getting old on us, are you? I'm growing some back, myself, try toツ*blend in a little moreツ*when I walk into a room full of yuppies.

    Blackhawk, or Xe, or whatever they call themselves now, creep me out a little. I'd like to take their training, but I wouldn't want to work for them.
    +1

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    suntzu wrote:
    Joed757 wrote:
    Not 1 person they protected has been killed ever.I got to find some way to get into the door.
    I don't care how good theツ* mercs are--there are holes in every security detail, regardless of how well thought out it is.ツ* A committed individual will find a way.ツ*

    Second, I keep hearing how Blackwater is so hot--they didn't do so well in Baghdad when those mercs massacred civilians...of course it is always easier to shoot at people who can't shoot back...

    just my .02 cents.
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