stevenrm87
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A little cynical I see huh..
A little cynical I see huh..
A Border Patrol checkpoint's purpose is to inquire about immigration related offense. ie illegal aliens, legal aliens who overstay visa's, Immigrants (LAPRS) ect
Thanks for the reply.
While I don't condone illegal aliens living and working in this country, I do NOT believe the need to remove you, or any other illegal alien, justifies thesetresspasses against our GOD-GIVEN HUMAN RIGHTS. However, the Border Patrol has no interest in stopping the flood of illegals into our counrty. If they did they would have more cameras up at the border, at known crossing spots, so they could monitor and then apprehend anyone attempting to cross the border. As it is, I have more cameras in my neighborhood, than are on the entire streach of the Mexico/US border. It seems the government is more interested in watching me and my neighbors, than watching the border.
No, the CHECKPOINTS that these CRIMINALS man, are to condition you, the AMERICAN PEOPLE,to being stopped, questioned, having your "papers" examined, your belongings searched, and anything else the THUGS in the federal government want to subject you to, and again, to them, a refusal is "probable cause," and justification to illegally search you, taser you, or outright MURDER you on the side of the road. Just don't be suprised when the MILITARY starts manning these CHECKPOINTS with 50 calibers on their HUMVEE's in full battle fatigues. Former drug dealers, high school drop outs, felons, illegals, and all their little cohorts, armed with M-16's telling your wife and daughter to get out of the car for a quick "search."
That's what these, "CHECKPOINTS," are leading to.
Back to your comment, if you weren't an illegal, I would tell you to file CRIMINAL CHARGES against the people who searched you ILLEGALLY. They commit MULTIPLE CRIMES by searching youin violation ofthe 4th and 5th amendment, even if you are ILLEGAL. When these SCUM violate your GOD GIVEN HUMAN RIGHTS, these SCUM (you are SCUM if you violate someonesRIGHTS using a badge,a gun, and the insistance that you have the authority to do it,to justify your CRIMINAL behavior) deserve some time in PRISON, let alone being fired and sued into oblivion. You don't need an attorney, you just need to understand the law, and the proceedure for filing CRIMINAL CHARGES, yourself. Anyone can do it, and should do it, anytime their RIGHTS are violated by the NAZI SCUM popping up all over the country.
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The checkpoints mentioned in this thread have been in place for decades.They are not new and if their purpose was, as you say, to season up for being stopped and questioned, then this diabolical plan was initiated decades ago andcertainly has not proved to bevery efficient. You would think that they would have expanded the number of checkpoints and includedmore central areas of the country if this were the plan. Other than perhaps the ones on I-10 west of Van Horn, most of themare situated near the border with limited traffic for the common traveler, so, again, very ineffective for the purpose you suggest.
and his experience is becoming more and more prevelant. When you look at the numbers, more "checkpoints," more RIGHTS VIOLATIONS!!!My wife and I went through at least 4 BP checkpoints and the one at Hoover Dam while traveling on our honeymoon in June.
when the AMERICAN way of thinking, by way of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights,the Declaration of Independance, and the sentiments of our forefathers onBOTH the federalist and anti-federalistsides of the ailsewould be,If your not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about.
Ifyou don't have probable cause to believe a specific crime has been, or is being committed,then MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, and leave me alone!
And they will get neither liberty nor safety!!!They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Drugs are small enough to stash, so that gives them a reason to pull you out of your car and search every nook and kranny or your car, looking for "drugs." Illegal immigration gives them the reason to demand your ID if they suspect your an illegal, or gives them reason to ask you dumb questions to check your ability to speak english. DUI gives them a reason to pull you out of your car, FORCIBLY draw your blood (here in TX), make you preform all sorts of stupid tasks and tests, all subject to cop interpretation, and bully you around. Again, NOT EVEN CLOSE to a fair trade.
Now that they are starting to use the MILITARY, 18 year olds with assaul rifles, at "checkpoints" to fleese our fellow citizens, our women, and our kids, we are only at the very beginning of the kinds of RIGHTS VIOLATIONS we can expect to observe on Youtube postings of dash cams and checkpoint cams released under FOIA requested court orders.
Unless there's a law saying you have to provide proof of vehicle ownership or proof of citizenship, why would you answer any of these questions?
When stopped by the police where I live, all I am required to present is a license and a registration. Some states also require proof of insurance. At DUI checkpoints those documents are all I give them. Questions about "how I'm doing", "where I'm going this evening", and "what am I up to" go unanswered, as they are none of their damn business.
Does TX require proof of citizenship?
Cite, please,unless the roadblock north of Del Rio that you mention is on the border.SNIPfederal law does require one show proof of citizenship.
The name or ostensible purpose of the roadblock makes no difference. Either I am required by law to show something or I'm not. I have yet to see a law requiring me to present proof of citizenship, or proof of sobriety, whiledriving on a public road inside the United States, unless there is some reasonable suspicion I am an illegal alien or intoxicated. I may be mistaken, if so, please cite the law that says otherwise.DUI checkpoint -check to see if there is evidence that I have been drinking and if so, to determineif I am intoxicated.
DL checkpoint - check my DL, registration and insurance. (Of course, most do DL and DUI checks simultaneously.)
BP checkpoint - check my citizenship and for evidence of contraband.
You are correct that Texasdoes notrequire proof of citizenship when stopped,but the Border Patrol does not enforce state law, they enforce federal law and federal law does require one show proof of citizenship.
Unless you take the time to cite the stupid laws, your post is meaningless.Look, I hate seeing these stupid videos. Here are some FACTS about a checkpoint, im not going to bother to site any law i dont have the time
1. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER IMMIGRATION QUESTIONS ONLY!
2. Thats it. All you HAVE to do is answer immigration questions.
jeremy05 wrote:Unless you take the time to cite the stupid laws, your post is meaningless.Look, I hate seeing these stupid videos. Here are some FACTS about a checkpoint, im not going to bother to site any law i dont have the time
1. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER IMMIGRATION QUESTIONS ONLY!
2. Thats it. All you HAVE to do is answer immigration questions.