the bg brought the knife and apparently his gun jammed.. a little divine intervention maybe? 4 shots then a jam? thats awesomely lucky for those people in the church. he did however start swinging a knife which woundedhimself and the2 guys that drug him down. here's a question though, what kind of arms are u allowed to bear in illinois? a blowgun? bow and arrow? a bastard sword? honestly, if you can't carry a gun they are the ones breaking the law by declining you that right. and you should carry anyway. and if and when you get arrested take it to them. do your worst. we will be behind u.