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Message to Governor Kaine

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The following is my letter to Governor Kaine. If anyone wants to follow up with their own, go to http://www.governor.virginia.gov/AboutTheGovernor/contactGovernor.cfm

A note about the inaugural ball, I got invited by a friend of the Kaine family to escort her when her boyfriend couldn't make it. The food and entertainment were good. :)

From:
Glenn Woodell

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Affiliation: Private Citizen
Subject: Feedback about concealed handguns in restaurants

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I find it deplorable that you decided to go completely with the traditional Democratic party line of no guns for honest citizens by vetoing this completely sensible bill, especially after it won in the House and Senate by margins of nearly 2 to 1.

I have been a holder of a Virginia Concealed Handgun Permit for over 25 years. There is obviously a good reason for the vast majority of the states in our union to issue concealed weapons permits yet you have decided that the wisdom of many should be be overruled by one.

I felt honored to be at your inaugural ball in Williamsburg but now I feel completely let down that a bill that was so overwhelmingly bipartisan and one that actually made a lot of sense was struck down with such oppositional fervor.​
 
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Read below about the two vetoes, both pertaining to concealed weapons.

From http://www.governor.virginia.gov/mediarelations/NewsReleases/viewRelease.cfm?id=622

[align=center] Governor Kaine Announces Action on General Assembly Legislation
RICHMOND – Governor Timothy M. Kaine today announced action on bills from the General Assembly that require his action before the end of the session. As of today, he has signed 158 bills, amended five and vetoed two, including the actions described below.

Vetoes
Governor Kaine vetoed two bills having to do with carrying concealed weapons.
Senate Bill 436 (Vogel) would have allowed people to carry a concealed weapon in a car as long as it was in a locked compartment or container.
“I have the same concerns with this legislation today as when I vetoed a similar bill two years ago,” Governor Kaine said. “This measure runs contrary to existing state law regarding concealed weapon permits, allowing persons who have not completed a criminal background check, and who are untrained with a handgun, to possess a firearm in a concealed manner within a locked compartment in their automobiles.
“It also presents a danger to our law enforcement officers, who risk their lives for Virginians on a daily basis while patrolling our Commonwealth’s roads and highways. The objections of law enforcement to this measure are compelling.”
Senate Bill 476 (Hanger) would have allowed people to bring concealed weapons into restaurants that serve alcohol, under certain conditions.
“Allowing concealed weapons into restaurants and bars that serve alcohol puts the public, the employees, and our public safety officers at risk,” Governor Kaine said. “I take seriously the objections of law enforcement to this measure.”
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wylde007 wrote:
You didn't happen to notice that article is from MARCH 4, 2008?
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I sure didn't. I saw this right below it though.
  • Office of the Governor Timothy M. Kaine
  • © Commonwealth of Virginia 2009
  • WAI compliant
Very misleading.

Well, at least I got my message across to him. :)
 
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That's a domain-specific notice. It just says that all content is current as and copyright of the Governor's office.
 
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HardChrome wrote:
wylde007 wrote:
You didn't happen to notice that article is from MARCH 4, 2008?
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I sure didn't. I saw this right below it though.
  • Office of the Governor Timothy M. Kaine
  • © Commonwealth of Virginia 2009
  • WAI compliant
Very misleading.

Well, at least I got my message across to him. :)
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In order to remove ambiguity and avoid mistakes, I always reference the bill(s) by number in my correspondence with legislators and executives, where applicable. In this case that would be SB 1035. Or SB 877 if for some reason you support SB 877 in lieu of SB 1035.
 
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DarkHorse wrote:
Do we know the estimated timeline for the Govenor to act on the current bill before him?
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I believe he has 30 days from the date the House and Senate adjourned to sign or veto the bill. After 30 days it will become law without his signature.

I may be wrong though.
 
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Wolf_shadow wrote:
DarkHorse wrote:
Do we know the estimated timeline for the Govenor to act on the current bill before him?
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I believe he has 30 days from the date the House and Senate adjourned to sign or veto the bill. After 30 days it will become law without his signature.

I may be wrong though.
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Thanks Wolf. So from the date they adjourn? So, that would not be the same day the bill was passed to him. So, does anyone know when the adjourn date is?
 
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DarkHorse wrote:
Wolf_shadow wrote:
DarkHorse wrote:
Do we know the estimated timeline for the Govenor to act on the current bill before him?
Click to expand...

I believe he has 30 days from the date the House and Senate adjourned to sign or veto the bill. After 30 days it will become law without his signature.

I may be wrong though.
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Thanks Wolf. So from the date they adjourn? So, that would not be the same day the bill was passed to him. So, does anyone know when the adjourn date is?
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2009 Legislative Session

The 2009 Regular Session adjourned sine die Saturday, February 28, 2009. The Reconvened Session will convene on Wednesday, April 8, 2009 at 12 noon.

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So if we get to April, it is law? Anyone have an idea on how to occupy the govenors time until then? Any chance he will forget about it!? :pOne can dream right....
 
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There probably would have been a chance the Governor would miss it or forget about it if so many people hadn't already e-mailed him about SB 1035. :)

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?091+sum+SB1035
03/05/09 Senate: Signed by President
03/06/09 House: Signed by Speaker
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The bill was finally signed by both the President (Senate) and Speaker (House) as of 3/6. So it probably didn't even get to the Governor's desk until Monday, 3/9.

The following are detailed in the Constitution of Virginia (worth reading), but have been summarized on these web pages:

http://legis.state.va.us/1_cit_guide/HowABill.htm
During the regular or special session, the Governor has seven days to act on bills presented to him. If there are fewer than seven days remaining in the General Assembly session, or if the General Assembly has adjourned, the Governor has thirty days after adjournment to act on bills.
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http://legis.state.va.us/1_cit_guide/how_bills.html
Bills that become law at a regular session (or the reconvened session that follows) are effective the first day of July following adjournment of the regular session unless otherwise specified.
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http://legis.state.va.us/laws/search/constitution.htm
 
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