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HERE'S a "poll' for you!
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deanf
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What an absurd question. We are asked to take side A or B without knowing what A or B are.
What an absurd question. We are asked to take side A or B without knowing what A or B are.
wylde007
Regular Member
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One side is government, one side is liberty.
Fairly simple choice if you ask me.
One side is government, one side is liberty.
Fairly simple choice if you ask me.
T Dubya
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deanf
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What if the revolutionaries are fascists? Are you going to fight on the side of fascism if the government is trying to put it down? That's just an example. We don't know the position of the revolutionaries in the question.
What if the revolutionaries are fascists? Are you going to fight on the side of fascism if the government is trying to put it down? That's just an example. We don't know the position of the revolutionaries in the question.
deepdiver
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I agree Deanf. In our first revolution there had been much written including the Declaration of Independence to give people information to decide which side they were going to support or if they would stay neutral. As out of control as our gov't is and as fascist as the policies of the Obama administration, there are still a whole helluva lot of things worse than the current US gov't/congress/administration. So to make a blanket agreement to fight against that gov't without knowing what you are fighting for is a really bad idea.
To some extent much of the American citizenry has been now been conditioned (indoctrinated) to vote or fight against things rather than for things. However, if one is considering armed rebellion against the government is VERY important to know what you are fighting FOR as well as against. Lots of people in numerous countries have fought in revolutions against something over the years only to be sorely, painfully, violently disillusioned. A few, such as the colonists in the American Revolution were fighting FOR something and had things turn out far better.
I agree Deanf. In our first revolution there had been much written including the Declaration of Independence to give people information to decide which side they were going to support or if they would stay neutral. As out of control as our gov't is and as fascist as the policies of the Obama administration, there are still a whole helluva lot of things worse than the current US gov't/congress/administration. So to make a blanket agreement to fight against that gov't without knowing what you are fighting for is a really bad idea.
To some extent much of the American citizenry has been now been conditioned (indoctrinated) to vote or fight against things rather than for things. However, if one is considering armed rebellion against the government is VERY important to know what you are fighting FOR as well as against. Lots of people in numerous countries have fought in revolutions against something over the years only to be sorely, painfully, violently disillusioned. A few, such as the colonists in the American Revolution were fighting FOR something and had things turn out far better.
wylde007
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We have something to fight for.
It's called Constitution and you already know who is on your side. Most-assuredly not the government. They have spit on and abandoned the founding document of law.
Their authority is impotent. They rule without conscience nor accountability.
Judgment day IS coming.
We have something to fight for.
It's called Constitution and you already know who is on your side. Most-assuredly not the government. They have spit on and abandoned the founding document of law.
Their authority is impotent. They rule without conscience nor accountability.
Judgment day IS coming.
deepdiver
Campaign Veteran
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wylde007 wrote:
The answer to "what you would do if you woke up tomorrow in the middle of a New American Revolution?" would be much different if the "rebels" are fighting for the Constitution versus if they were fighting to establish Sharia Law or fighting to establish anarchy.
wylde007 wrote:
It's not a question of what WE would be willing to fight for but rather a discussion of the question in the poll. The poll question does not specify that the "rebels" are fighting to reestablish a Constitution adhering government. If that were set out in the question then I would find it easy to answer.
The answer to "what you would do if you woke up tomorrow in the middle of a New American Revolution?" would be much different if the "rebels" are fighting for the Constitution versus if they were fighting to establish Sharia Law or fighting to establish anarchy.
wylde007
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Given my propensity for strict Constitutional adherence, I think I was justified in applying it to the "rebel" side of the argument.
It seems that, aside from a few gung-ho career order-obeyers and some bootlicking liberal rollover types, that attachment is not unreasonable.
Given my propensity for strict Constitutional adherence, I think I was justified in applying it to the "rebel" side of the argument.
It seems that, aside from a few gung-ho career order-obeyers and some bootlicking liberal rollover types, that attachment is not unreasonable.
Huck
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deanf wrote:
deanf wrote:
Just where do you think the Federal Government is drifting toward if it'snot already there? The Fed Government aint gonna put itself down!
david.ross
Regular Member
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Great, another example of an "Us vs Them"...
Funny how we depend on the government to protect our rights while everyone bashes on the great body people seem to hate so much.
Many here expect people to be in "harmony" and have the same ideals as everyone else, or even worse... try to force those ideals by open carrying while shoving said weapon in their face figuratively (I hope the smart ones don't). Well there is a country which forces the people to be harmonious and force the same ideals on everyone else, we call it China.
Great, another example of an "Us vs Them"...
Funny how we depend on the government to protect our rights while everyone bashes on the great body people seem to hate so much.
Many here expect people to be in "harmony" and have the same ideals as everyone else, or even worse... try to force those ideals by open carrying while shoving said weapon in their face figuratively (I hope the smart ones don't). Well there is a country which forces the people to be harmonious and force the same ideals on everyone else, we call it China.
Nelson_Muntz
Campaign Veteran
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This is what the poll intimates, and presumably why we would be in a revolution:
FTA: "...action against government mismanagement and corruption..."
This is what the poll intimates, and presumably why we would be in a revolution:
FTA: "...action against government mismanagement and corruption..."