Just got off the phone with an LEO and I am shocked.

Guest · Mar 12, 2009

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:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

Felid`Maximus · Mar 12, 2009

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Which law enforcement agency said that?

BB62 · Mar 12, 2009

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The next time a LEO tells you something is against the law, have the person cite the law that makes it so.

Phssthpok · Mar 12, 2009

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BB62 wrote:

The next time a LEO tells you something is against the law, have the person cite the law that makes it so.

Re-read the OP paying particular attenetion to this qote:

"You are legally able to holster a weapon on your hip and go to the store, but we arent going to allow it and you will be charged with the misdimeanor of breaching the peace"

This Jabbut readily admitted that the activity was legal, but threatened to charge him with a crime if he were to actually engage in said activity. See 18USC, Sec 242.

Edit to add:

Good luck with that BoP charge officer Jabbut:

NRS 203.010 Breach of peace. Every person who shall maliciously and willfully disturb the peace or quiet of any neighborhood or person or family by loud or unusual noises, or by tumultuous and offensive conduct, threatening, traducing, quarreling, challenging to fight, or fighting, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. [1911 C&P § 327; RL § 6592; NCL § 10275]—(NRS A 1967, 489; 1971, 150)

How EXACTLY does peaceful OC fit this charge? (See also NRS 200.460 NRS 199.310 NRS 207.190 NRS 207.280 )

Guest · Mar 12, 2009

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:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

jfrey123 · Mar 12, 2009

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I'm also curious what dept gave you this piece of information.

Food for thought:
NRS 203.010 Breach of peace. Every person who shall maliciously and willfully disturb the peace or quiet of any neighborhood or person or family by loud or unusual noises, or by tumultuous and offensive conduct, threatening, traducing, quarreling, challenging to fight, or fighting, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

OC'ing is not a loud or unusual noise. It's not tumultuous (disruptive) and offensive (maybe tumultuous to some, but not both). It's not threatening, traducing, quarreling. It's not challenging to fight or fighting. I think you could get a lawyer to have a field day if they decide to arrest you for this.

jfrey123 · Mar 12, 2009

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Some Guy Somewhere wrote:

, but I do not want to jeapordize my chances of being able to cc by skuffs with LEO of my rights.

As long as you aren't ever convicted of a crime, you can not jeopardize your chances ever. Nevada is a "Shall Issue" state, no LEO can ever form an opinion that you can't have a permit. As long as you meet the legal requirements, you are completely eligible for your CCW.

Some of the Prohibitions of getting your CCW:

e) Has been convicted of a crime involving the use or threatened use of force or violence punishable as a misdemeanor under the laws of this or any other state, or a territory or possession of the United States at any time during the immediately preceding 3 years. (f) Has been convicted of a felony in this State or under the laws of any state, territory or possession of the United States. (g) Has been convicted of a crime involving domestic violence or stalking, or is currently subject to a restraining order, injunction or other order for protection against domestic violence.

BB62 · Mar 12, 2009

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Phssthpok wrote:

BB62 wrote:

The next time a LEO tells you something is against the law, have the person cite the law that makes it so.

Click to expand...

Re-read the OP paying particular attenetion to this qote:

"You are legally able to holster a weapon on your hip and go to the store, but we arent going to allow it and you will be charged with the misdimeanor of breaching the peace"

Click to expand...

The original post was changed to include far more detail AFTER I posted.

wayneco · Mar 12, 2009

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Please at least share with us what agency you called. I am guessing it's southern Nevada, I'd be shocked if this were any place but the bottom of the state, say Clark County.

I can't imagine any LEO in northern or western Nevada would say this.

Vegassteve · Mar 12, 2009

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Some Guy Somewhere users/26330.htmlwrote:

I am working on posting the rest of our long conversation, I called 311, then asked to be transfered to someone who could answer any oc questions I had, I have his badge number and name, wont post obviously. But the reason for me being shocked is not only the tone that was set the instant I said the magic oc words, and I am not sure of all laws, but I do not want to jeapordize my chances of being able to cc by skuffs with LEO of my rights.

Why not post the name and badge number and the station called? These people work for us. They are not secret agents. I for one would like that info posted so we can write the dept and inform them of how out of bounds an officer was. These people would have no concern that your name was posted in a newspaper and online if you were busted for something. So please post the info.

calmp9 · Mar 12, 2009

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Why do you try to fence with these people? You're not going to win and you're not going to change their opinions. He said they are going to charge you and they will. The Attorney General, although wrong, says they have the right to do that.

DKSuddeth · Mar 12, 2009

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you need to tell us which city and agency this officer is from because i'm sure a few of us wouldn't mind getting our own freedom cycles.

Guest · Mar 12, 2009

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:cuss:

Guest · Mar 12, 2009

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:banghead:

jfrey123 · Mar 12, 2009

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Man... If someone with legal connections has nothing better to do, they should walk into Smiths until the Metro PD decides to nail him with Breach of Peace.... They'd have a nice, nice settlement from the PD IMHO.

False Arrest? Police Harassment? What does all of this fall under?

Guest · Mar 12, 2009

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Please post nothing else on my thread. If there is a moderator or someone who can delete my account and all posts and quotes, basically, just remove my name from the site. Ill be back, risen from the ashes.

This is @#$%ing ridiculous.

Vegassteve · Mar 12, 2009

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Some Guy Somewhere users/26330.htmlwrote:

Please post nothing else on my thread. If there is a moderator or someone who can delete my account and all traces of it. Ill be back, risen from the ashes.

This is @#$%ing ridiculous.

Whats the problem? Why are you wanting to back out of this thread? What or whom scared you?

BB62 · Mar 12, 2009

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Vegassteve wrote:

Some Guy Somewhere wrote:

Please post nothing else on my thread. If there is a moderator or someone who can delete my account and all traces of it. Ill be back, risen from the ashes.

This is @#$%ing ridiculous.

Click to expand...

Whats the problem? Why are you wanting to back out of this thread? What or whom scared you?

I tried sending him a PM, and then found out he changed his name to "Some Guy Somewhere", not accepting PM's.

Well, in case you check this thread again, here's my PM:

What's wrong? Please explain what's up, because I'd like to help.

PissedPheonix · Mar 12, 2009

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:?

Probably felt like it wasn't a good idea to have his name posted anywhere on this site. If I quoted him, I would sure make sure it didn't appear.

HuckleBilly · Mar 12, 2009

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Some Guy Somewhere wrote:

:cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss::cuss:

Looks to me like this poster was censored by the board moderator. On the AOL boards we used to refer to this as being TOSed. Violation of Terms of Service.

Just got off the phone with an LEO and I am shocked.

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