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3rd LEO Encounter

suntzu

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demnogis wrote:
Let's just say this interaction didn't go so well.

Sadly, I was let down by my city's Police department in terms of their severe lack of professionalism, knowledge on Openly Carrying (one of the initial detaining officers threatened to charge me with 12025 (g) before letting me go), and respect for my civil liberties.

There were a number of miss-steps by the Police department (note, this was not the OC Sheriff's department).

I am awaiting a more detailed response from legal council.

And no, I am not seeking personal monetary damages (ie, money check).

Ironically, even though the officers feigned ignorance, the first question I was asked was "What movement are you with?!"

If you would like more details I will be glad to share what I am allowed to. It may not be until after some time, though.

Good news:

The girlfriend were sent on our way after about an hour and a half. Possessions returned to me, and only some slight bruising from the shiny bracelets.
You should still seek monetary damages in order to effectively tell the police that this type of behavior cannot and most certainly shall not stand.

legal options are the only legal options the people have to hold the police accountable. When they mistreat a person they most certainly should seek damages.
 

lovenme

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Story is BS. I agree with bigtoe, "they just so happened to hit the stop button too i assume." Again, any of you want to take this fight to the government without trying to lure L/E into a law suit. Seems the only thing on this site is people trying to find a way to criminalize cops. So F%^&ing ridiculous, grow up. If any of you had any idea of what cops have to deal with thes days and now have to deal with idiots trying to lure them into a lawsuit. Find another way to fight this fight, not with L/E. There are so many regulations and policies set on cops these day that they do not have time to intentionally create a problem with open carry people. Give me a break and take your fight to the government without bashing cops. I dont care about your response, you dont mean anything too me so dont respond.
 

lovenme

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Story is BS. I agree with bigtoe, "they just so happened to hit the stop button too i assume." Again, any of you want to take this fight to the government without trying to lure L/E into a law suit. Seems the only thing on this site is people trying to find a way to criminalize cops. So F%^&ing ridiculous, grow up. If any of you had any idea of what cops have to deal with thes days and now have to deal with idiots trying to lure them into a lawsuit. Find another way to fight this fight, not with L/E. There are so many regulations and policies set on cops these day that they do not have time to intentionally create a problem with open carry people. Give me a break and take your fight to the government without bashing cops. I dont care about your response, you dont mean anything too me so dont respond.
 

curtm1911

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I feel so sorry sometimes that you people in Kommiepornia are subjected to such indignity, but then, you ask for it by just living there and electing the TRASH you send to "Represent" you. We have our problems here too, but are also able to deal with it accordingly. And people ask me why I won't go to Kommiepornia for any reason.................DUH....................



Leave that toilet before the Big One if you can, and remember to close the gate behind you........
 

Theseus

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Well, you may have been brought up to tuck tail and run, but I sir, was not. :p

I say it in good fun, but I do also mean it. We need people that are willing to fight and not run. Maybe the problem started when enough people just gave up and ran. I blame you!

curtm1911 wrote:
I feel so sorry sometimes that you people in Kommiepornia are subjected to such indignity, but then, you ask for it by just living there and electing the TRASH you send to "Represent" you. We have our problems here too, but are also able to deal with it accordingly. And people ask me why I won't go to Kommiepornia for any reason.................DUH....................



Leave that toilet before the Big One if you can, and remember to close the gate behind you........
 

CA_Libertarian

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lovenme wrote:
Story is BS. I agree with bigtoe, "they just so happened to hit the stop button too i assume." Again, any of you want to take this fight to the government without trying to lure L/E into a law suit. Seems the only thing on this site is people trying to find a way to criminalize cops. So F%^&ing ridiculous, grow up. If any of you had any idea of what cops have to deal with thes days and now have to deal with idiots trying to lure them into a lawsuit. Find another way to fight this fight, not with L/E. There are so many regulations and policies set on cops these day that they do not have time to intentionally create a problem with open carry people. Give me a break and take your fight to the government without bashing cops. I dont care about your response, you dont mean anything too me so dont respond.
Flagged for trolling. After responding to this person in another thread, I read their post history and realized that every single post made was delusional and inflamitory.

I strongly encourage everybody to ignore this person. Don't feed the trolls and they'll stop coming back.
 

curtm1911

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Theseus wrote:
Well, you may have been brought up to tuck tail and run, but I sir, was not. :p

I say it in good fun, but I do also mean it. We need people that are willing to fight and not run. Maybe the problem started when enough people just gave up and ran. I blame you!

curtm1911 wrote:
I feel so sorry sometimes that you people in Kommiepornia are subjected to such indignity, but then, you ask for it by just living there and electing the TRASH you send to "Represent" you. We have our problems here too, but are also able to deal with it accordingly. And people ask me why I won't go to Kommiepornia for any reason.................DUH....................



Leave that toilet before the Big One if you can, and remember to close the gate behind you........
I am from Indiana originaly and I Sir, Do Not Tuck Tail and Run, I'm merely saying that DO NOT Bring YOUR POLITICS HERE TO FREE AMERICA and ruin another state.
 

prcE6

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Indiana??? Then what do you care? Serisously bro, we live here. I'm not going to move to a "free state" whenwe have so much to do here. We deal with it, and we're fighting an uphill battle. Oh, and by the way, we are gaining serious ground. Much more than has happened in the past 20 years.

The only problem is, it's friggin' California! There's not too many that are actually from here like some of us. A lot of pansies that contribute to the "pussification of America" move here to take advantage of our beaches, sunshine, entertainment, topical diversity, and oh.. the HOTTEST CHICKS IN THE WORLD! The problem is, they bring their socialist votes with them. It's a wonder we have a Republican Governator. But then again, is he really?
 

curtm1911

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PRC-E6 wrote:
Indiana??? Then what do you care? Serisously bro, we live here. I'm not going to move to a "free state" whenwe have so much to do here. We deal with it, and we're fighting an uphill battle. Oh, and by the way, we are gaining serious ground. Much more than has happened in the past 20 years.

The only problem is, it's friggin' California! There's not too many that are actually from here like some of us. A lot of pansies that contribute to the "pussification of America" move here to take advantage of our beaches, sunshine, entertainment, topical diversity, and oh.. the HOTTEST CHICKS IN THE WORLD! The problem is, they bring their socialist votes with them. It's a wonder we have a Republican Governator. But then again, is he really?

Indiana. We learn to shoot at a VERY EARLY AGE. It is in our DNA. I live in Arizona now, and you bet I care, you have a Beautiful State, Geographically and I have friends and family there too.The problem is the Human Compost you keep electing to "Represent" you, IE: DiFi, Babs Boxer, Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, and I could go on, but I guess You know more than I do. We have "The Manchurian Candidate" John McStain,, but I bet he will be gone come next election, can yousay the same thing about your "Elected Reps".............hmmmmmmmmmmmm keep me posted.



BTW, we got HOT Babes here too, and many of them shoot, ain't nothing in the world sexier than a Lady who can shoot.......Live and Learn my Friend
 

HariCarry

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demnogis wrote:
"I will not be pressing charges against the local PD. I will, however be sending a strongly worded letter (Kevin & Bean fans will get that one) in complain of their misconduct and unlawful actions.z'



Oh hey, now THERE'S a plan of action that'll make'm snap into line in a real hurry!! (Snort, giggle!)



Am I the only one here who thinks "demnogis" is coming across like a pathetic limp dick?
 

HariCarry

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lovenme wrote:
Story is BS. I agree with bigtoe, "they just so happened to hit the stop button too i assume." Again, any of you want to take this fight to the government without trying to lure L/E into a law suit. Seems the only thing on this site is people trying to find a way to criminalize cops. So F%^&ing ridiculous, grow up. If any of you had any idea of what cops have to deal with thes days and now have to deal with idiots trying to lure them into a lawsuit. Find another way to fight this fight, not with L/E. There are so many regulations and policies set on cops these day that they do not have time to intentionally create a problem with open carry people. Give me a break and take your fight to the government without bashing cops. I dont care about your response, you dont mean anything too me so dont respond.
Whose side are you on?
 

oilfieldtrash11

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HariCarry wrote:
demnogis wrote:
"I will not be pressing charges against the local PD. I will, however be sending a strongly worded letter (Kevin & Bean fans will get that one) in complain of their misconduct and unlawful actions.z'



Oh hey, now THERE'S a plan of action that'll make'm snap into line in a real hurry!! (Snort, giggle!)



Am I the only one here who thinks "demnogis" is coming across like a pathetic limp dick?

why are you talking bad about one of our established members? please refrain from the names...i know i do not have any authority to tell you what to do but we dont need to be insulting each other.. demnogis has his reasons for what he is doing. please provide only constructive criticism......if you have an idea for him let him know, just dont bad talk someone especially when you have nothing to add to the conversation
 

Theseus

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I am simply responding to your suggestion that you rant away from Cali. I was born here, left, and came back. I have lived in Virginia, Georgia and even spent a few summers with family in Indiana.

We need more people that come and fight than tuck tail and run. And in case many of you don't know, these same liberal punks ruin California, make money and then run to Colorado and then start changing their laws.

California was merely the first. It will happen to the rest soon enough.

curtm1911 wrote:
PRC-E6 wrote:
Indiana??? Then what do you care? Serisously bro, we live here. I'm not going to move to a "free state" whenwe have so much to do here. We deal with it, and we're fighting an uphill battle. Oh, and by the way, we are gaining serious ground. Much more than has happened in the past 20 years.

The only problem is, it's friggin' California! There's not too many that are actually from here like some of us. A lot of pansies that contribute to the "pussification of America" move here to take advantage of our beaches, sunshine, entertainment, topical diversity, and oh.. the HOTTEST CHICKS IN THE WORLD! The problem is, they bring their socialist votes with them. It's a wonder we have a Republican Governator. But then again, is he really?

Indiana. We learn to shoot at a VERY EARLY AGE. It is in our DNA. I live in Arizona now, and you bet I care, you have a Beautiful State, Geographically and I have friends and family there too.The problem is the Human Compost you keep electing to "Represent" you, IE: DiFi, Babs Boxer, Maxine Waters, Henry Waxman, and I could go on, but I guess You know more than I do. We have "The Manchurian Candidate" John McStain,, but I bet he will be gone come next election, can yousay the same thing about your "Elected Reps".............hmmmmmmmmmmmm keep me posted.



BTW, we got HOT Babes here too, and many of them shoot, ain't nothing in the world sexier than a Lady who can shoot.......Live and Learn my Friend
 

marshaul

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Theseus wrote:
Well, you may have been brought up to tuck tail and run, but I sir, was not. :p

I say it in good fun, but I do also mean it. We need people that are willing to fight and not run. Maybe the problem started when enough people just gave up and ran. I blame you!

curtm1911 wrote:
I feel so sorry sometimes that you people in Kommiepornia are subjected to such indignity, but then, you ask for it by just living there and electing the TRASH you send to "Represent" you. We have our problems here too, but are also able to deal with it accordingly. And people ask me why I won't go to Kommiepornia for any reason.................DUH....................

 

Leave that toilet before the Big One if you can, and remember to close the gate behind you........
+1 I have no time for cowards. :p

And I'm totally serious.

Until you grow enough balls to move here and help us win our fight, and as long as you cower in the illusionary safety of your so-called "free state", I will thank you to kindly keep your cowardly opinion to yourself.

Move along son, the men have business to talk about. :celebrate
 

curtm1911

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marshaul wrote:
Theseus wrote:
Well, you may have been brought up to tuck tail and run, but I sir, was not. :p

I say it in good fun, but I do also mean it. We need people that are willing to fight and not run. Maybe the problem started when enough people just gave up and ran. I blame you!

curtm1911 wrote:
I feel so sorry sometimes that you people in Kommiepornia are subjected to such indignity, but then, you ask for it by just living there and electing the TRASH you send to "Represent" you. We have our problems here too, but are also able to deal with it accordingly. And people ask me why I won't go to Kommiepornia for any reason.................DUH....................



Leave that toilet before the Big One if you can, and remember to close the gate behind you........
+1 I have no time for cowards. :p

And I'm totally serious.

Until you grow enough balls to move here and help us win our fight, and as long as you cower in the illusionary safety of your so-called "free state", I will thank you to kindly keep your cowardly opinion to yourself.

Move along son, the men have business to talk about. :celebrate
I wouldn't move to that toilet if I was paid all the money that Obak has spent lately. And as for your coward remark, be a man and say it to my face, I'll feed you your teeth. You are real brave sitting at your keyboard, but come and get some if you think you want some...........Man......HA...........no wonder you Kommiepornians can't get anything right with that kind of an attitude, talk about a closed mind, I offer an opinion and am attacked and insulted, that is what you want us to help you fight for, Closed mindedness like yours, I think not.........now it's your turn to move along sonny, Real Men have Freedom to Defend!!!!!!!
 
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