Ammo shortage

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It's all demand. Not only is there panic over what might happen with the government, but there is a lot of additional buying being done for the purpose of survival preparations, and ammo is possibly the number one item bought in that area (though bulk foods are also being bought in huge numbers).

If there was any kind of effort to slow down ammo manufacture, do you really think it wouldn't be leaked? On the other hand, I doubt there is a whole lot of extra manufacturing being done, either. Some yes, but companies don't generally go to the expense of opening new plants and/or hiring (many) new employees for what they more than likely consider a TEMPORARY spike in demand. They'd have to lay off and close plants in the near future if they did that. I'm sure many are paying some overtime, but I doubt it goes much farther than that.

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Slayer of Paper wrote:

On the other hand, I doubt there is a whole lot of extra manufacturing being done, either. Some yes, but companies don't generally go to the expense of opening new plants and/or hiring (many) new employees for what they more than likely consider a TEMPORARY spike in demand. They'd have to lay off and close plants in the near future if they did that. I'm sure many are paying some overtime, but I doubt it goes much farther than that.

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Exactly. You can call this whole thing the "ammo bubble." I'll just sit and wait for it to pop and get minedirt cheap.

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Contrived US Ammunition Shortage
FromCharleston Voice

3-8-9

From an undisclosed, but reliable source. I'd like to know who told Remington to cut back on production....
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Less than 10 days ago I went to buy my wife a handgun from a large national sporting goods retail outlet near Boise. They have 3 very large sets of shelves that are normally stacked high with every imaginable type of ammo, but on this day they had maybe 2% of their normal stock and 0, yes ZERO .38 cal. When I asked the salesman about it he said that they have not been able to get much and when they do it sells within a few days.

Because I am so concerned about what is unfolding in our country I decided to check around. Out of 5 major outlets I was able to obtain 2 boxes of .40 cal. and 1 box of .38, 250 rounds total. The story from each salesman was the same, there is none available and they don't know when they will receive more.

At one location I got talking with the clerk and he told me that his brother works for Remington and has run their ammo making machines for over 10 years, in the past few years they have run 12 hours a day 7 days a week. TWO WEEKS after our last elections their management informed them that they were to cut back to 2 1/2 days a week and only run 8 hour a day. He said they had 50 semi-truck trailers waiting to be loaded but that they could not fill them.

A small family owned gun store I have dealt with for the last several years had quite a bit available but I was told again that they have scoured the entire area and bought everything they could find to resell, and they thought what they had would be gone by this Monday, tomorrow. After talking more with the owner he told me that last Wednesday and Thursday his staff had spent the entire time calling every gun store in Oregon, Idaho, and Washington and could not locate anything more than a few boxes here and there. While I was in the store he took off to drive all the way to Montana to get what was available there in a few small towns, that is at least a 16 hour round trip drive.

Apparently over thirty people were waiting for an ammo shipment in Mt. Home, Id. and when the Semi finally arrived it had only 12 boxes of pistol ammo aboard and they were told not to expect anymore in the near future.

I haven't heard this situation mentioned anywhere, and I would never have discovered it if I hadn't gone to purchase a gun.

Something very strange is happening out here. I can only hope that it is a local phenomenon, but I fear that is much larger. Please inform your readers so that they can find out for themselves.

http://www.rense.com/general85/cntrived.htm

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spiritof76 wrote:

Contrived US Ammunition Shortage
FromCharleston Voice

3-8-9

From an undisclosed, but reliable source. I'd like to know who told Remington to cut back on production....
______

Less than 10 days ago I went to buy my wife a handgun from a large national sporting goods retail outlet near Boise. They have 3 very large sets of shelves that are normally stacked high with every imaginable type of ammo, but on this day they had maybe 2% of their normal stock and 0, yes ZERO .38 cal. When I asked the salesman about it he said that they have not been able to get much and when they do it sells within a few days.

Because I am so concerned about what is unfolding in our country I decided to check around. Out of 5 major outlets I was able to obtain 2 boxes of .40 cal. and 1 box of .38, 250 rounds total. The story from each salesman was the same, there is none available and they don't know when they will receive more.

At one location I got talking with the clerk and he told me that his brother works for Remington and has run their ammo making machines for over 10 years, in the past few years they have run 12 hours a day 7 days a week. TWO WEEKS after our last elections their management informed them that they were to cut back to 2 1/2 days a week and only run 8 hour a day. He said they had 50 semi-truck trailers waiting to be loaded but that they could not fill them.

A small family owned gun store I have dealt with for the last several years had quite a bit available but I was told again that they have scoured the entire area and bought everything they could find to resell, and they thought what they had would be gone by this Monday, tomorrow. After talking more with the owner he told me that last Wednesday and Thursday his staff had spent the entire time calling every gun store in Oregon, Idaho, and Washington and could not locate anything more than a few boxes here and there. While I was in the store he took off to drive all the way to Montana to get what was available there in a few small towns, that is at least a 16 hour round trip drive.

Apparently over thirty people were waiting for an ammo shipment in Mt. Home, Id. and when the Semi finally arrived it had only 12 boxes of pistol ammo aboard and they were told not to expect anymore in the near future.

I haven't heard this situation mentioned anywhere, and I would never have discovered it if I hadn't gone to purchase a gun.

Something very strange is happening out here. I can only hope that it is a local phenomenon, but I fear that is much larger. Please inform your readers so that they can find out for themselves.

http://www.rense.com/general85/cntrived.htm

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Oh noes!!! Quick!! Everyone go buy more ammo!!!!



:quirky

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Be a fiddling... G R A S S H O P P E R

or a vigilant... A N T

W I N T E R is still coming .

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It is demand driven, but it's not all about panic buying.

The handgun caliber that seems to be in shortest supply is .380 ACP. No military or government agencies use it, so that's out. Some factories may have diverted production to military/government calibers, so that's a possibility, but one I haven't seen evidence of.

But what is indisputable, is that ordinary citizens carrying handguns is undergoing a huge surge. Following good advice, they're hitting the range for proficiency training. Not all of them are willing to learn how to dress around the gun, so that means small, flat, unobtrusive pocket guns are selling like crazy. And in that category, .380 rules the day.

Before now, .380 has been a relatively low demand item; owners would buy a box to shoot, then load a magazine and carry for years without firing another round. But these days they're buying 5-10 boxes to shoot, and a box a month for training, and then panic-buying three more boxes for every box they shoot.

That is a huge disruption in the demand/manufacturing ratio.

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A friend of mine who is a FFL, says that one of his best sellers is the Bersa Thunder in .380. He sells them as fast as they come in, and unlike many other types, they do come in.

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That's funny - we haven't been able to get any Bersa products since even before the election. PM me about what wholesaler he gets them from.

-ljp

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With costs rising, I'm buying in bulk to 'lock in' those proces.

Walllymart has blazer brass fro 9$/50, that's 18$/100, 180$/1000. Can't beat that with a stick.. Even online places like ammoman are more expensive than that... Or a few bucks less expensive but then have to wait a week for it.

I'll go in and buy as many boxes as they have, it's even cheaper than WWB which is 20$/100 rounds.

I just bought 1000 rds. of 7.62x39 Wolf for 280$ WITH two polymer 'ammo cans'... Again, to make sure I can actually afford the ammo.... I just bought some milsurp that was twice as expensive... Thankfully I only bought about 60 rounds, to hold me over till the wolf came in...