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Wanted: California Open Carry Organizers!
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sigscout
Regular Member
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Now thats a great idea
Now thats a great idea
Theseus
Founder's Club Member
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Because they want you to violate them!
Because they want you to violate them!
prplqun
Regular Member
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I am really new to all of this but want to get more info and want to help out. I live in the OC but am from the central vally I am will to help as much as I can in both area. I know that I still need to know more.
I am really new to all of this but want to get more info and want to help out. I live in the OC but am from the central vally I am will to help as much as I can in both area. I know that I still need to know more.
fighting_for_freedom
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prplqun wrote:
Advice: Find out if there's anybody from your area, get together with them for coffee or something, and have them explain the laws and OC in depth. Then get them to take you out for an OC outing. Much better than trying to figure it out and do it all by your lonesome.
Edit: It would really help if I could spell. Can't figure out why I keep writing 'and' instead of 'an'.
prplqun wrote:
Advice: Find out if there's anybody from your area, get together with them for coffee or something, and have them explain the laws and OC in depth. Then get them to take you out for an OC outing. Much better than trying to figure it out and do it all by your lonesome.
Edit: It would really help if I could spell. Can't figure out why I keep writing 'and' instead of 'an'.
demnogis
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prplqun wrote:
prplqun wrote:
Welcome! And check out the California Forum. There are a few of us in your area. Check your private messages.
inetprez
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Hey Everyone...
The Orange County Sheriff Department just released a training bulletin on Open Carry.
Check it out. http://www.allsafedefense.com/Articles/OpenCarryOCSheriff0209.pdf
By the way, I would love to help organize this movement in the OC...
Hey Everyone...
The Orange County Sheriff Department just released a training bulletin on Open Carry.
Check it out. http://www.allsafedefense.com/Articles/OpenCarryOCSheriff0209.pdf
By the way, I would love to help organize this movement in the OC...
oilfieldtrash11
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good find but its kind of a knockoff of the CPOA bulletin and the Sac PD memo that went out.
good find but its kind of a knockoff of the CPOA bulletin and the Sac PD memo that went out.
demnogis
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I'll have to print out a copy of that memo to keep on me, along with the other docs I keep... Penal code breakdown, "Yes, it's legal!" flier, etc.
I'll have to print out a copy of that memo to keep on me, along with the other docs I keep... Penal code breakdown, "Yes, it's legal!" flier, etc.
Mike
Site Co-Founder
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inetprez wrote:
First, stating that loaded gun carry is prohobited on all public streets and inside vehicles on them. The loading in vehicles or on roads prohibition only applies to incorporated areas under People v. Knight and its progeny.
Second, it states that load checks imply right to demand ID and run background checks under Hiibel - wrong. Hiible only applies to states with stop and ID checks. Further, under Hiibel, state stop and ID statutes are limited to persons seized upon reasonable suspicion of comitting a crime. Calif. does not have a stop and ID law, and load checks are not done pursuant to reasonable suspicion - they are a statutoty administrative inspection loudly silent on any duty to have or show ID.
inetprez wrote:
This training bulletin is erroneous in two respects.
First, stating that loaded gun carry is prohobited on all public streets and inside vehicles on them. The loading in vehicles or on roads prohibition only applies to incorporated areas under People v. Knight and its progeny.
Second, it states that load checks imply right to demand ID and run background checks under Hiibel - wrong. Hiible only applies to states with stop and ID checks. Further, under Hiibel, state stop and ID statutes are limited to persons seized upon reasonable suspicion of comitting a crime. Calif. does not have a stop and ID law, and load checks are not done pursuant to reasonable suspicion - they are a statutoty administrative inspection loudly silent on any duty to have or show ID.
marshaul
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Well, I'm in San Francisco, so I can do the whole "coffee and explain the laws" thing, if anybody likes. I've also wanted to organize an event in the Bay Area, but we're gaining members at a slow pace.
Well, I'm in San Francisco, so I can do the whole "coffee and explain the laws" thing, if anybody likes. I've also wanted to organize an event in the Bay Area, but we're gaining members at a slow pace.
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Hi, my name is Justin Waller and currently reside in Riverbank, Ca. If you do not know that area,it is located in the Stanislaus County district. I have been trying to find or start a group here in relation to open carry. If any information regarding this subject could be forwarded to my email or you may call me at (209) 534-1595 I wouldgreatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time and future response.
Justin Waller
(209)534-1595 or jw95367@yahoo.com
Hi, my name is Justin Waller and currently reside in Riverbank, Ca. If you do not know that area,it is located in the Stanislaus County district. I have been trying to find or start a group here in relation to open carry. If any information regarding this subject could be forwarded to my email or you may call me at (209) 534-1595 I wouldgreatly appreciate it. Thank you for your time and future response.
Justin Waller
(209)534-1595 or jw95367@yahoo.com
heliopolissolutions
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You got the bay, bits of norcal, bits of socal, and now...some representation from right smack in the middle of our state.
Reppin' Merced/Fresno/Modesto up in here.
You got the bay, bits of norcal, bits of socal, and now...some representation from right smack in the middle of our state.
Reppin' Merced/Fresno/Modesto up in here.
heliopolissolutions
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Mike wrote:
Mike wrote:
Sooooo...how do we get them to correct this?
MudCamper
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heliopolissolutions wrote:
heliopolissolutions wrote:
We don't. We continue to educate so that future memos are more accurate. Something to keep in mind is that back when these memos were first being published, they were a huge positive step for us in CA. Previous to this, most CA cops thought simply open carrying was a 12025 violation and carrying ammo was a 12031 violation. These memos corrected that. Now we're arguing finer details with them like 4A issues. We've got a long way to go (like getting entirely rid of 12031 and 626.9) but much progress has been made.
Babaganoush
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Let me know if you hear about any UOC events in South Orange County. I'd love to participate.
Let me know if you hear about any UOC events in South Orange County. I'd love to participate.
chewy352
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Babaganoush wrote:
This one may be a little further than you want to travel but should be interesting: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/32973.html
This one is in the works for Orange County. Great group of guys and good turn outs: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/32880.html
Hope that helped.
Babaganoush wrote:
This one may be a little further than you want to travel but should be interesting: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/32973.html
This one is in the works for Orange County. Great group of guys and good turn outs: http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum12/32880.html
Hope that helped.