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    Ok, I'm starting to do more research into militias. One: Because I really need training and should the SHTF I don't want to be left with my d!ck in the wind. Two: I need to get out of the house more often. Three: See one and two.

    I really don't know much about them other than what the media says and that ain't too great. However, I'm betting there has to be some distortion. I'm not anti government, not religious, or socially conservative. However, I do love the Constitution and freedom in general.

    The only one I can find locally is

    http://www.angelfire.com/wa3/1mtn/index.html

    I tried emailing them for information but it got sent back to me by the server. So anyone have any ideas? I know it's a touchy subject for some but I prefer to be as educated on a subject as possible instead of forming an opinion out of bias.

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    gsx1138 wrote:
    I tried emailing them for information but it got sent back to me by the server.
    That does not surprise me. Most school districts do not endorse this kind of activity nor is it lawful to use a public e-mail system for personal use.
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    There are many other resources other than "militias." There are countless forums online. My favorites are:

    http://www.survivalistboards.com/

    http://www.whenshtf.com/

    Also I have a friend who as taken a class from this company and said it was the best money he has ever spent. It is located in Monroe:

    http://www.wildernesscollege.com/

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    Yano, that was one thing I was starting to enjoy was how the militia freaks were staying off of OCDO...



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    Check out Zombie Squad, as funny and tongue-in-cheek as their name is, they do a lot of good post-disaster work (such as helping out in the wake of Katrina) and help out their members be ready for large natural and man-made disasters.

    Also, look into your county's Search & Rescue groups (there is also ES&R - Explorer S&R - for younger folk from 14 and up). At the very least, it will get you semi-prepared for helping to find people and help survive in the wilderness.

    As for "militia" groups, I'd steer far clear of any that advertise themselves as such, as any kind of group you'd want to be associated with wouldn't call themselves that.
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    From the Washington State Constitution:

    Article 1 SECTION 24 RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS. The right of the individual citizen to bear arms in defense of himself, or the state, shall not be impaired, but nothing in this section shall be construed as authorizing individuals or corporations to organize, maintain or employ an armed body of men.

    Washington State has not necessarily "Outlawed" militias, it just excluded them from the right to bear arms under the State's Constitution.

    Don't know if there are any active "militias" here in Washington but if so I sure hope they aren't like the members of the Michigan Militia (as well as other states) that were shown on the news several years ago. They looked like a bunch of overweight middle aged men that liked to wear "Cammies", play in the woods with their para-military rifles, then go home and sleep in a soft warm bed (after many brewski's).
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    Take this with in cheek, but if a city is INCORPORATED could this apply to the PD?:celebrate

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    Let's face it. If you want to play GI Joe and pat yourself on the back for being a true "patriot" (seeing black helicopters and having a stash of tinfoil for hats on hand is an added bonus) then join a militia. As a plus, you'll get to meet a bunch of other overweight middle aged delusional people who somehow think they have revived the Spirit of 76, plus you'll get to feel special while munching on stale MRE's in the rain while on "training missions."

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Let's face it. If you want to play GI Joe and pat yourself on the back for being a true "patriot" (seeing black helicopters and having a stash of tinfoil for hats on hand is an added bonus) then join a militia. As a plus, you'll get to meet a bunch of other overweight middle aged delusional people who somehow think they have revived the Spirit of 76, plus you'll get to feel special while munching on stale MRE's in the rain while on "training missions."
    Bitter much?

    I already stated my purpose for my interest. If what you say is actually true then I'll just stick to the range. However, I'd rather research the subject myself.
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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Let's face it. If you want to play GI Joe and pat yourself on the back for being a true "patriot" (seeing black helicopters and having a stash of tinfoil for hats on hand is an added bonus) then join a militia. As a plus, you'll get to meet a bunch of other overweight middle aged delusional people who somehow think they have revived the Spirit of 76, plus you'll get to feel special while munching on stale MRE's in the rain while on "training missions."
    Sounds like the voice of experience.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Let's face it. If you want to play GI Joe and pat yourself on the back for being a true "patriot" (seeing black helicopters and having a stash of tinfoil for hats on hand is an added bonus) then join an open carry group. As a plus, you'll get to meet a bunch of other overweight middle aged delusional people who somehow think they have revived the Spirit of 76, plus you'll get to feel special while munching on stale pizzas in the Oly while on "education missions."
    Careful with that flamethrower. It can be redirected too easily. Haven't you seen any of the OC get together pictures?

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    Jim675 wrote:
    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Let's face it.* If you want to play GI Joe and pat yourself on the back for being a true "patriot" (seeing black helicopters and having a stash of tinfoil for hats on hand is an added bonus) then join an open carry group.* As a plus, you'll get to meet a bunch of other overweight middle aged delusional people who somehow think they have revived the Spirit of 76, plus you'll get to feel special while munching on stale pizzas in the Oly while on "education missions."
    Careful with that flamethrower.* It can be redirected too easily. Haven't you seen any of the OC get together pictures?

    Did you really just question old school pizza?!
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    That was sorta my point, we resemble that remark a bit. But the pizza was darn good.

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    TechnoWeenie wrote:

    Did you really just question old school pizza?!
    Get a rope!:P

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    I will say this. For those of you who hate the militia with such venom to be posting what you have, check where you get your info. Also, where will you stand when your government comes to take your guns, will you be able to defend community, let alone your family or yourself. Remember, the ATF, FBI, CIA, Army, Marines AND local/State police TRAIN for war, constantly. How will you counter them if you don't do the same.

    You hate the militia, but you fail to realize that OUR COUNTRY was created by the Militia. Our founding fathers had some good words about the militia, for example, "every able bodied man between the ages of 18 and 45". It was so important for our country to have militias that it was put into the Constitution. They never intended for us to have a standing army that invades other countries.

    Say what you want, but you may want to actually check your info before you start flaming militias.

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    Well said.

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    sirpuma wrote:
    I will say this. For those of you who hate the militia with such venom to be posting what you have, check where you get your info. Also, where will you stand when your government comes to take your guns, will you be able to defend community, let alone your family or yourself. Remember, the ATF, FBI, CIA, Army, Marines AND local/State police TRAIN for war, constantly. How will you counter them if you don't do the same.

    You hate the militia, but you fail to realize that OUR COUNTRY was created by the Militia. Our founding fathers had some good words about the militia, for example, "every able bodied man between the ages of 18 and 45". It was so important for our country to have militias that it was put into the Constitution. They never intended for us to have a standing army that invades other countries.

    Say what you want, but you may want to actually check your info before you start flaming militias.
    I checked it 10 years ago when I started flaming militias, and it's just as current now as it is then.

    Comparing the modern day "militia" to the militia of old, which was organized under the laws of the state they were in, and functioned as the local home guard, to the current crop of self declared militias who serve no current function other than to clog up internet boards with tinfoil hat nonsense is like comparing a Yugo to a sports car.

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    Many militias were started when someone wealthy enough to pay and equip the troops, and popular enough to lead them, got a group of men together and started drilling. Some of these groups joined the government's cause en masse, as an already established unit. The leader would receive a commission commiserate to the number of soldiers he brought to the fight.

    Would the government of today tolerate that? Would you? Do you believe the National Guard is a suitable substitute?

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    Jim675 wrote:
    Many militias were started when someone wealthy enough to pay and equip the troops, and popular enough to lead them, got a group of men together and started drilling. Some of these groups joined the government's cause en masse, as an already established unit. The leader would receive a commission commiserate to the number of soldiers he brought to the fight.

    Would the government of today tolerate that? Would you? Do you believe the National Guard is a suitable substitute?
    And those militia units were organized as such under the laws of the state. Heck in Washington, the laws are still on the books for the formation of a militia. Requires the governor's signature.

    The national guard is not a militia.

    The modern day militia is not a militia.

    I'm going into the tinfoil hat business, I can see there is gonna be a huge market in the country pretty soon.

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    There's a war on drugs out there! Can you form a unit and petition the Governor for a commission to defend us against those heathen Canadians?

    No. We now have a standing army, thank you. Go back to your pen, sheep - we'll call when we need you.

    Are there morons in militias? 'Suppose so. Are some lead by morons? Most probably.

    Are some people with a sense of history and honor also drawn to the concept. Wouldn't surprise me a bit.

    We OCers might train for weapons retention, maybe even engaging multiple targets in low light.
    Do you think that will serve us well against a professionalized military force if we ever feel the need to exercise our 2A rights for what they were intended for?

    You better stock up on enough tinfoil to stop stuff considerably more dire than alien thought waves.

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    Jim675 wrote:
    No. We now have a standing army, thank you. Go back to your pen, sheep - we'll call when we need you.
    Did you just call sv_libertarian a sheep?... Seriously?

    Dude, take some time to think before you hit the "Send" button.
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    I did a bit of research on WA state militias a while back, couldn't find anything current in my area. I know there is one in the Seattle area, one of my roommates worked with a guy in it. It was the "you really need to read the Turner Diaries" kind of militia, so I made it a point to not hang around.
    I think the Yakima County Militia may still exist, but they're kind of out there on the nutcase fringe too. The Washington State Militia pretty much died after some explosive related troubles.
    I wouldn't mind seeing a resurgence of the Militias, it's just the ******** that join up kind of ruin it for the rest of us.
    I've considered forming a small one in my area, but I can't afford the weaponry. Right now I'm actually saving for a Mosin Nagant.

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    just_a_car wrote:
    Did you just call sv_libertarian a sheep?... Seriously?

    Dude, take some time to think before you hit the "Send" button.

    Jim675 wrote
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    "Can you form a unit and petition the Governor for a commission to defend us against those heathen Canadians?

    No. We now have a standing army, thank you. Go back to your pen, sheep - we'll call when we need you."
    "Go back to your pen, sheep" = The "government" addressing a figurative "militia" (sheep).

    Considering sv_libertarian's apparent disdain for any militia, how did you come to the (erroneous) conclusion that sv_libertarian (not a figurative militia) was the target of that statement? Was it perhaps because you did not follow your own advise?





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    There's a reason I posed it as a question... I wasn't sure he did, but it sure looked like he called him that.

    Jim was going back and forth with SV on the previous page and then I see that... it's pretty easy to infer he meant SV, since he doesn't specify who he's talking about when he says "sheep", but it's fairly well-recognized as a term for those that aren't willing to protect themselves or see reality for what it is... with the back-and-forth going on, I had assumed it was directed at SV who had been saying there were no militias anymore in the post previous to Jim's.

    If he didn't intend for it to call SV a sheep, then I'll be happy to apologize for making that assumption, but it was merely born from a miscommunication; text as a medium has a terrible fondness of twisting things and making it hard to gauge intent and inflection.
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