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    Blaming the United States for Mexico's problems

    Read the transcript of the entire interview

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510916,00.html

    VAN SUSTEREN: Well, the issue with the weapons, some people thought, you know, Is that sort of a -- a sort of a hidden agenda, sort of like a gun control. I tell you one thing, that we looked into it. We talked to some ATF sources. And they're hardly, you know, the liberal wing of the Democratic Party.
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    VAN SUSTEREN: And they desperately need more funding because they have some presence here in Mexico under the agreement, and every time that there is a bust here of huge weapons, they track down where these weapons are from. They go in there with the cooperation of the Mexicans. And the ATF has told us these weapons, these automatic weapons that go right through these -- you know, right through police officers here, are coming from the United States.
    CLINTON: There's no doubt about it. And you know, Greta, I remember 15 years ago, the reason the assault weapons ban was passed is because police chiefs in America begged for it. They said, I'm sending my guys out onto the street, they're being outgunned. The criminals, the gang members, they have automatic weapons, military assault rifles. Get them off the street. Give our guys a fighting chance.
    And there's no doubt in my mind that the 10 years we had an assault weapons ban in America was one of the tools that helped to drive down the crime rate. And we've been really fortunate. We changed our policing techniques, which we're sharing with the Mexicans. We put in more technology, which we're advising the Mexicans about. But getting those assault weapons off the streets was really helpful. We also began to better arm our own police.
    But if Americans will just think back, those of us old enough to remember, what it was like 15, 20 years ago when our own police were facing those assault weapons, and now, unfortunately, the Mexican police are.
    So we have to take our share of the responsibility because they're bought by straw purchasers. They are smuggled across the border. And then they are used to, as you point out, you know, kill a brave policewoman who was doing her job.
    VAN SUSTEREN: And it's the ATF here who told us, We need help. You know, it's not the Mexicans, it's our people here in New Mexico that told us...
    CLINTON: Well, and the ATF guys are doing everything they can do, but we want to give them some more authority. You know, they need some help tracking down the illegal guns and where they came from. And we've got to give them, you know, more authority. You know, if you're the strongest pro-gun person in America, you have to stop and ask yourself, OK, we want those guns in our country. But another country just across our border has different laws. So why should we be the source of their problems?
    If we want to have them in our country, fine. That's -- you know, that's for us to decide. But the Mexican police and people have decided they don't want them in their country, and we're facilitating by our inability to stop the illegal sale and smuggling of these guns.

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    Just like Mexico is "helping" to facilitiate the illegal drug trade here....

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    There are no 'automatic' anything comin' outta the US. I watched this... and it's a lie. We all know it's a lie. I've sent objections to FOX new. May as well be pissin' up a rope. This stuff's comin' up from central America... by boat... and whatever the defecting soldiers 'n cops take with 'em when they abandon their posts for the cartels.

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    I was outraged by this interview also. All the lies and misinformation. The deceptive wording was rediculous and disgusting, "automatic weapons" was thrown around so much and those are already illegal in the U.S. so they should stop being deceptive.

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    Why would they stop being deceptive? This is what the antis did last time for the AWB: convince the general public that "assault weapons" are fully automatic. Next they'll replay the videos of M-16s and fully auto AK-47s. They'll show how scary the evil black guns are :what:.

    What surprises me is Fox News latches on to this BS. It's not only Van Susteren, I saw O'Reilly bought into the "assault weapons from the US are destroying Mexico" hoax.

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    Who do we talk to to get this refuted on Fox News? I know La Pierre went on CNN when they did their ATF auto-semi-auto mix up a few years back...

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    This is part and parcel of the Brady lie machine. It's agitation propaganda and disinformationat it's best. If this is what we can now expect from FOX... then all of the media has finally caved.



    http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/rw810.html

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    "The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”Joseph Goebbels


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    Another one that we should never forget....

    “Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”Joseph Goebbels

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    Here's an email address for Greta: ontherecord@foxnews.com

    I sent her an email containing these two links so she couldn't claim ignorance anymore:

    http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/rw810.html

    http://www.gunnewsdaily.com/rw807.html Pete

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