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    Just got back from Academy Sports where I OC'd and after 15 minutes of being in the store an employee asked if I was an LEO and I told him no then he said "Well ok, I'm gonna have to stick around while you're in the store" so I said "fine with me", now I have a personal store guide

    A few minutes later two or three employees approached me and aske the question of am I an LEO and that if I was I needed to be displaying a badge. I said no I'm not, then he said he was going to have to ask me to put my gun in my vehicle. I asked if there was a store policy and he said yes,he asked if I had a permit to carry concealed and if I didI should do so. I said "no I don't" and he gawked like whoa, what are you doing carrying that thing openly. I followed with, "Sir it is legal to open carry in Louisiana" and he said oh ok. I then told him that they needed to have the proper signage up to notify customers. I will add the gentleman was very polite but other than that he was misinformed on Louisiana Law.

    I don't believe he was management and did not want to press as I was on my lunch hour. Anyone aware of Academy's policy?

    Edit* - I did post the location in the subtitle...LAFAYETTE

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    Damn dude I'm always in their on ambassored(ugh) caffery hwy. in lafayette, I must be lucky or they just take me for a cop. also last weekend I went twice to mall in LAf. never had any trouble... Damn I need to stop eating those damn donuts, thats why they think I'm a cop. Thats the ticket Wheeelman bring a donut with you next time,!!! LMFAO

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    "I then told him that they needed to have the proper signage up to notify customers."



    Now if they take your advice nobody can carry there.

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    the wheeelman wrote:
    I asked if there was a store policy and he said yes,he asked if I had a permit to carry concealed and if I didI should do so.
    So has anyone managed to find out if an actual store policy banning OC actually exists or was this just a case of another misinformed store employee talking out his butt?
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    Amen to that, plenty of stores out their

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    charlie12 wrote:
    "I then told him that they needed to have the proper signage up to notify customers."



    Now if they take your advice nobody can carry there.

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    Academy has been against OC for at least the last year that I have been OCing. Aside from the one time at Wal Mart, it is the only place that management has had an issue with OC.

    I tried to OC at Academy twice, both times was asked to leave by manegement and did so. Now I only shop there as a last resort. Last time I went I was looking for holsters for the HK USP Tacticool and ammo to go shooting that week since nowhere else near me had holsters or .45 ammo.

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    I know if you buy a gun there they hold it and walk you OUTSIDE the store with it.

    When i got my P22 I thought about strapping it on, and saying, oops, I forgot to get some plastic worms.

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    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    If Academy makes the decision to post their entrances "no firearms," it's their loss.
    There are PLENTY competitors who DO want your money.
    Shop them, instead.
    The only problem is that Academy, like Wal-Mart, has blown away the competitors with underpricing at first, then fix pricing when the others are closed. A local shop just closed it's doors here in West Monroe. Now, only Academy is left here, save the pawn shops and the like. If I cannot find another local supplier, I guess I will have togo online, or travel somewhere. Does not do much good for my community or my neighbors.Uphill is a tough battle, but can be won.



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    Dustin wrote:
    I know if you buy a gun there they hold it and walk you OUTSIDE the store with it.
    So do Wal-Mart, Gander Mtn., Bass Pro, and Cabela's. I don't know about Dick's or Big Five; I don't have any experience with them, but I suspect they are the same way.

    I read a rather hilarious report one time by a fellow who had to be escorted out of Wal-Mart ("sorry, it's just policy!"), with the manager carrying his new shotgun. Even though he pointed out that he was openly carrying a pistol and several reloads on his belt, their policy required the manager to carry it out and place it in his trunk.

    And so they did. In the trunk of his marked police cruiser, while he stood there in full police uniform.



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    Syntax Error wrote:
    mark edward marchiafava wrote:
    If Academy makes the decision to post their entrances "no firearms," it's their loss.
    There are PLENTY competitors who DO want your money.
    Shop them, instead.
    The only problem is that Academy, like Wal-Mart, has blown away the competitors with underpricing at first, then fix pricing when the others are closed. A local shop just closed it's doors here in West Monroe. Now, only Academy is left here, save the pawn shops and the like. If I cannot find another local supplier, I guess I will have togo online, or travel somewhere. Does not do much good for my community or my neighbors.Uphill is a tough battle, but can be won.



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    That is "ONE" of the reasons I HATE Walmart. Walmart has put more people out of business than any other organiztion on the planet.

    Every chance I get, even if it cost a little more, I buy my groceries from Mom and Pop stores, and I shop ANY WHERE I can besides Walmart.

    I hope I live long enough to see Wally World Crumble beneath it's greedy fat ASS !!









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    It's funny what people tend to ignore: when Wal-Mart "jacks up prices", the new prices are never as high as the mom-n-pop stores charged before Wal-Mart came to town. (The threat of competition is just as real a market force as actual competition; if Wal-Mart were to leave their prices too high, a competitor could easily snag that business.)

    Businesses thrive where there's a Wal-Mart. How healthy is business in towns where there is no Wal-Mart? Talk about a dead depressed economy! (Exception granted for towns where the hoity-toity crowd have outlawed competition and can afford to pay the resultant artificially inflated prices.)

    New businesses spring up around every Super Center. When people save a bunch of money on the generic pedestrian goods that are exactly the same whether you buy them at Wal-Mart, Target, or Bob's Corner Store, they can be more discretionary with their, errr, discretionary spending. Niche, boutique, and specialty stores do well at offering things that Wal-Mart doesn't.

    I was born in a small town of 4,000; when I was 10, we near a town of 5,000 about 40 miles away. Both towns have Wal-Marts (originally small stores, now Super Centers). In both of these small towns in rural Arkansas, there is active and healthy competition for groceries, prescription drugs, sporting goods, guns and ammo, durable home goods, and clothing. The most successful competitors aren't even really "competitors"; they focus on things that aren't worth Wal-Mart's time and trouble, for which smaller stores can offer better flexibility.

    If an economy can't support more than Wal-Mart, the problem isn't Wal-Mart.


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    And I have seen the opposite. Every place I have lived, after mom and pop were gone, the prices were always Higher than when they first moved in. I worked at a grocery store while in high school. The prices there I knew well. After I went in the Navy, I was happy to see Sam's. I got paid every 2 weeks, and could buy 2 week supplies at Sam's, cheap. After all others were out of business, prices crept up exponet... exponitia.... Alot!.

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    Here's one of the best put togethers I've seen about Walmart.

    http://www.moneyvsdebt.com/2007/01/1...rican-economy/

    There's even a 4 part video for you to watch.







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    I shopped in the Baton Rouge Segan Lane Acadamy for about 20 minutes yesterday. No problems. I was wearing my Bersa .380 in it's holster on my right hip and it was probably not seen by most of the employees. I didn't make a point of turning it toward anyone so it may have slipped under the radar so to speak.
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    I finally received an email regarding my inquiry if Academy maintains a no-firearm policy.

    it read:

    Thank you for contacting Academy Sports + Outdoors. Due to an excessive amount of customer inquires its taken us just a little longer to respond to your email. We sincerely apologize and thank you for your patience.

    Please forward your phone number so that the Store Director or District Manager can contact you directly regarding this matter.

    Sincerely,

    Customer Service Department
    Academy Sports + Outdoors
    1800 N. Mason Rd.
    Katy, TX 77449
    (888) 922-2336
    Office Hours: Monday - Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. CST




    Why don't we all call the number so we may get in touch with the regional management?

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    I will get a number when they contact me and post it here.

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    Here is the number to the Store Director, his name is Lance 337-371-4771

    Funny thing is, he left me a message to call him back and now I can't get a hold of him. Maybe I'll pay him another visit with my friend on my side.

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    The phone tag continues! Called the District Manager with no luck. BUT...I did go into Academy today and NO problems at all. that includes the original tools that gave me problems last time so I believe my complaint may have prompted Lance to inform the staff that it is in fact OK to carry on the premises.

    I will try again Monday though.

    Have a good Easter!

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    OC'd at both Academy's here in Baton Rouge earlier today with no problems at all.

    Airline location: I had to pick up a worm box, then to inspect the empty handgun ammo shelves. An older gentleman holding a clipboard, (likely management) and a radio on his belt giving assignments to employees in front of the gun counter saw me standing there looking at the bare shelves and asked if I needed assistance. We both laughed at the non-existant stock of ammo.

    Before I left I spent a few minutes looking at the strong boxes they keep on the front wall in front of the registers-which are also happen to be right by the front glass partioned office space.

    No problem here, and he approached me from the strong side.

    Siegen Location: Same non-event to report. I asked management who was helping another customer football pad aisle where the athletic tape could be found. I walked by him on my strong side.

    Then off to the gun counter. They were busy so I paid for my tape standing in the longest line, thanked the two members of management and left.

    The most amusing reaction was one from a sideways hat wearing hipster who desperately needed a belt or suspenders and did a quick side-step hopas he walked past me finally noticing my G27. I didn't know eyeballs are the size of ping pong balls until just then.

    Between two locations I spoke with two or 3 members who were obviously managment, probably 50 customers all total, and walked past another dozen employees with no worries or issues, just as it should be.

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    I agree. If people flaunt and cause issues with this, the next thing you will see is no open carry anywhere. Don't just throw stuff out like, " What are you an idiot,you don't know your constitional rights in Louisiana?" Liberals and such love this stuff and are looking for it. Carry a printed copy of the statute and give it to the person or at least let them see it. It is somewhat vague and can be fired right back at you when it says in there that establishments can establish their own rules in this. All I am saying is be smart when answering such questions, and don't seem confrontational which may get used against you if the law gets involved.

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    I'm assuming that most of you are not 19. A 19 year old open carrying in a public place would probably draw more attention than a 30 or 40 year old open carrying. I might test this out and let you know. It really bugs me how I get stereotyped just because of my age even though it is completely within my right to open carry at 19. I mainly want to open carry for long trips where I have to stop at gas station along the way and at my workplace. I'm going to be working at a gun store soon so carrying is pretty essential to me in that environment. I will see what kind of reactions I get when I carry inside a gas station, but my guess will be that they will not be good ones.

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    biggin215 wrote:
    I'm assuming that most of you are not 19. A 19 year old open carrying in a public place would probably draw more attention than a 30 or 40 year old open carrying. I might test this out and let you know. It really bugs me how I get stereotyped just because of my age even though it is completely within my right to open carry at 19. I mainly want to open carry for long trips where I have to stop at gas station along the way and at my workplace. I'm going to be working at a gun store soon so carrying is pretty essential to me in that environment. I will see what kind of reactions I get when I carry inside a gas station, but my guess will be that they will not be good ones.
    Wear proper attire, keep a good shave/haircut and this will minimize any reaction you think you'll get.

    I still keep a high/fade/High-n-Tight look from the Marine Corps. Shave daily and usualy wear jeans, decent shirt (Like Carhart T-Shirt) tucked in, with a belt.

    OFTEN, folks assume I'm a COP. Little do they know, my disgust for most LEO's.





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    I consider myself pretty well kept for the most part. Sure I have my lazy days, but I still do well to dress appropriately. There is still no getting past looking young.

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    biggin215 wrote:
    I'm assuming that most of you are not 19. A 19 year old open carrying in a public place would probably draw more attention than a 30 or 40 year old open carrying.

    Certainly not even close to 19 but that said, I look it or so I am told ALL THE TIME! Kind of gets on my nerves as I am 26 but I guess I will laugh about it when I get older. Dressing respectfully does help but minorly as I am a college graduate and a working "business" professional and routinely OC with a polo tucked in and I still get looks and bothers.

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