Chaingun81
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What are restrictions on pocket knife carry in CA?
What are restrictions on pocket knife carry in CA?
What are restrictions on pocket knife carry in CA?
FUD!Chaingun81 wrote:What are restrictions on pocket knife carry in CA?
You REALLY don't want to know Knife laws in CA are horrid and have HUGE variation in different localities. Move 10 feet and there might be a completely different law.
About the only way that you can carry a knife nearly everywhere is if its a folding knife with a propensity to stay closed with a bladeunder 2 inches.
I'm going to ignore the obvious violation of the second amendment here and just ask a practical question...If the blade is over 2 1/2 inches long, and the blade opens with the flick of your wrist, it is illegal (misd). P.C. 653 (k). I find these knifes on people all the time.
mjones wrote:FUD!Chaingun81 wrote:What are restrictions on pocket knife carry in CA?
You REALLY don't want to know Knife laws in CA are horrid and have HUGE variation in different localities. Move 10 feet and there might be a completely different law.
About the only way that you can carry a knife nearly everywhere is if its a folding knife with a propensity to stay closed with a bladeunder 2 inches.
Read the letter above.
Even better, let me describe it for you guys.
-There is no length limit for folding, can be open carried or concealed (everywhere)
-No length limit for fixed, must be open carried (everywhere)
-Colleges= no limit for folding, 2.5" fixed.
- K-12 schools= slightly weird (read letter) but basically, nothing over 2" folding if you are not otherwise qualified.
-No switchblades over 2"
-Spring assisted=OK
-Unless you buy cheapass gravity knives at Pakistani swap markets, you won't run amok of the law.
-There are some slight nuances due to local ordinances but they are only busted out in extreme circumstances.
-Opening a folder and inserting into a sheath (like Emerson knives)=fixed blade, so be careful if you open and lock a folder and carry as such.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Thanks for posting that first!CaCop wrote:I'm going to ignore the obvious violation of the second amendment here and just ask a practical question...If the blade is over 2 1/2 inches long, and the blade opens with the flick of your wrist, it is illegal (misd). P.C. 653 (k). I find these knifes on people all the time.
Is it safe to say that if you purchased your knife through a reputable California company that the knife wouldn't be classified as a switch blade under this code's definition? I have a Benchmade Griptillian and it can be flicked open without touching the thumb stud although you have to whip your wrist back and forth like a moron a bunch of times at high speed to get it to happen. I can also get it to open without touching the thumb stud by disengaging the locking mechanism and then flicking my wrist. Would this be classified as a switch blade from your experience?
So basically any well-oiled knife is subject to a BS PC 635(k) charge? There isn't a standard on this at all?Yes, If an officer wants to push the issue, you can be arrested for P.C. 653(k). As long as the officer can make it open with the flick of his wrist. If he chose to arrest, you would most likely get cite released and not booked.
Oilfieldtrash, yes I work swings. I love it. I have been on this particular shift for over 4 years. I am somewhat of a vampire lol.
Because the only length restrictions are k-12 schools and gubmint buildings (2" and 4", respectively), everywhere else is fair game. That is why I called FUD.pullnshoot25 wrote:mjones wrote:FUD!Chaingun81 wrote:What are restrictions on pocket knife carry in CA?
You REALLY don't want to know Knife laws in CA are horrid and have HUGE variation in different localities. Move 10 feet and there might be a completely different law.
About the only way that you can carry a knife nearly everywhere is if its a folding knife with a propensity to stay closed with a bladeunder 2 inches.
Read the letter above.
Even better, let me describe it for you guys.
-There is no length limit for folding, can be open carried or concealed (everywhere)
-No length limit for fixed, must be open carried (everywhere)
-Colleges= no limit for folding, 2.5" fixed.
- K-12 schools= slightly weird (read letter) but basically, nothing over 2" folding if you are not otherwise qualified.
-No switchblades over 2"
-Spring assisted=OK
-Unless you buy cheapass gravity knives at Pakistani swap markets, you won't run amok of the law.
-There are some slight nuances due to local ordinances but they are only busted out in extreme circumstances.
-Opening a folder and inserting into a sheath (like Emerson knives)=fixed blade, so be careful if you open and lock a folder and carry as such.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Why are you calling FUD when you just essentially said the same thing I did?
For the record, I carry some form of Benchmade Axis Lock knife everywhere except airport sterile areas...regardless of the potential consequences. I even regularly carry through arena-venue type metal detectors and never set one off.
The reality is knives aren't demonized like guns are, so unless you get busted for something else, the likelyhood of being charge is nearly non-existant. I carry clipped to the inside of my right-front pocket if I'm not OC. Left-rear pocket if I'm OCing.
CaCop wrote:So basically any well-oiled knife is subject to a BS PC 635(k) charge? There isn't a standard on this at all?Yes, If an officer wants to push the issue, you can be arrested for P.C. 653(k). As long as the officer can make it open with the flick of his wrist. If he chose to arrest, you would most likely get cite released and not booked.
Oilfieldtrash, yes I work swings. I love it. I have been on this particular shift for over 4 years. I am somewhat of a vampire lol.
When I get back from this bowling trip (maybe OC while there?) I will videotape a knife and see if it would fall under 635(k)pullnshoot25 wrote:CaCop wrote:So basically any well-oiled knife is subject to a BS PC 635(k) charge? There isn't a standard on this at all?Yes, If an officer wants to push the issue, you can be arrested for P.C. 653(k). As long as the officer can make it open with the flick of his wrist. If he chose to arrest, you would most likely get cite released and not booked.
Oilfieldtrash, yes I work swings. I love it. I have been on this particular shift for over 4 years. I am somewhat of a vampire lol.
As long as the officer can make it open with the flick of his wrist it does not matter if it is oiled or lubed or whatever. Most knifes are made so that they will stay closed, even if they dont have a latch to lock them closed. There is usually a small amount of pressure that must be over come with your thumb or a finger nail in order to open the knife. If not, it is illegal.
I am not saying that this law is right, or constitutional. I am just explaining it.
FUD!
Read the letter above.
Even better, let me describe it for you guys.
-There is no length limit for folding, can be open carried or concealed (everywhere)
This varies depending upon location. LA City Ordinances prohibit carrying any knife openly that has a blade length over 3 inches in length. There are exceptions for carrying a knife for use in a lawful occupation, or lawful recreational activity (leave a lot to interpretation) or recognized religious practices, or traveling to from said activities.
-No length limit for fixed, must be open carried (everywhere)
See above
-Colleges= no limit for folding, 2.5" fixed.
- K-12 schools= slightly weird (read letter) but basically, nothing over 2" folding if you are not otherwise qualified.
K-12 nothing over 2" folding an NO LOCK BLADE KNIVES regardless of length, even a 1" lockblade is illegal in K-12.
-No switchblades over 2"
-Spring assisted=OK
-Unless you buy cheapass gravity knives at Pakistani swap markets, you won't run amok of the law.
-There are some slight nuances due to local ordinances but they are only busted out in extreme circumstances.
-Opening a folder and inserting into a sheath (like Emerson knives)=fixed blade, so be careful if you open and lock a folder and carry as such.
CARRY ON!
-N8
Oilfieldtrash, yes I work swings. I love it. I have been on this particular shift for over 4 years. I am somewhat of a vampire lol.
CaCop wrote:Oilfieldtrash, yes I work swings. I love it. I have been on this particular shift for over 4 years. I am somewhat of a vampire lol.
what is your department's policy on ride alongs? i commonly ride with my dad on graves here and maybe we could meet up for a short ride along. it would be nice to meet the man behind the computer and we could discuss our views. just a thought.