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    (CNN) -- Eight people have been killed and several others wounded in a shooting at a nursing home in Carthage, North Carolina, police and hospital officials said Sunday.

    Carthage Police Chief Chris McKenzie told CNN affiliate News 14 Carolina that there were six dead at the scene and three wounded, including a police officer. Gretchen Kelly, a spokeswoman for FirstHealth Moore Regional Hospital, told CNN later that two of the six patients brought there had died, and two were still being treated.

    Few details of the shootings, which happened about 10 a.m. Sunday, were immediately available. There was no immediate indication as to the attacker's motive, and it was not clear whether the gunman was in custody or was among the dead or wounded.

    "I ain't never seen nobody being mistreated down there or nothing," Bobby Dunn, whose 89-year-old mother was living at the facility, told News 14. "That's what I can't understand -- why somebody would come and do something like that."

    McKenzie said the facility was "under our control" and patients had been moved to another building. Police were still interviewing witnesses early Sunday afternoon, he said. Carthage is about 60 miles southwest of Raleigh. See map showing Carthage, Raleigh ยป

    Sunday's killings were the latest in a series of high-profile but unrelated rampages in March, including the killings of 10 people by an Alabama man who was then killed by police. At a southern Illinois church, a man shot and killed the pastor and stabbed two parishioners, and a 17-year-old in Germany killed 15 people in two small towns before dying in a shootout with police.

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    And again one can't help but ask, "What the hell is wrong with people???"
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    deepdiver wrote:
    And again one can't help but ask, "What the hell is wrong with people???"
    I believe that it is the dillusionalthinking that something like this can never happen, and the refusal of the overall populus to arm itself against such events.

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    The shooter has been apprehended. Still no motive has been revealed.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,511330,00.html

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    It may be a blessing or curse for the Pro-Gun movement but hew wasn't using a hand gun or assault weapon. Looks like an ordinary semi-auto hunting rifle. I couldn't tellexactly from the pictures. I just got back from visiting my Mother in a similar nursing home and maybe some armed guards would work but I don't know if the staff should be armed and especially not the residents. It would be very easy for a resident there to obtain one of the guns from a staff member and start firing away with it. The way the staff has to interact with the residents would make it easy for one to be grabbed even in a retention holster.

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    deepdiver wrote:
    And again one can't help but ask, "What the hell is wrong with people???"
    People wont like me saying it but maybe the end times are closer than we think.

    2 Timothy 3

    1. [/suP]This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    2. [/suP]For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3. [/suP]Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    4. [/suP]Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    [/suP]
    Just my two cents worth.
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    deepdiver wrote:
    And again one can't help but ask, "What the hell is wrong with people???"
    We're always going to have a certain percentage of dangerously psychotic people with us. For a long time to come anyway, I suspect.

    Just realize they are insane, literally. Don't make yourselffrustrated trying to understand it. Its not particularly susceptible to understanding. By definition, his motive, whatever it was, will make no sense.

    Just chalk up eight morereasons peopleshould be able to defend themselves. Or, inthis case, their care-givers should be able to defend them.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Citizen wrote:
    Just chalk up eight morereasons peopleshould be able to defend themselves. Or, inthis case, their care-givers should be able to defend them.
    Absolutely!
    "Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death !" Patrick Henry

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    It may be a blessing or curse for the Pro-Gun movement but hew wasn't using a hand gun or assault weapon. Looks like an ordinary semi-auto hunting rifle. I couldn't tellexactly from the pictures. I just got back from visiting my Mother in a similar nursing home and maybe some armed guards would work but I don't know if the staff should be armed and especially not the residents. It would be very easy for a resident there to obtain one of the guns from a staff member and start firing away with it. The way the staff has to interact with the residents would make it easy for one to be grabbed even in a retention holster.
    Judging from:

    The undercut foregrip
    The placement/shape of the rear sight
    The teardrop shape of the trigger guard
    The slight 'potbelly' overall profile
    The size of the magazine
    The shape of the grip

    I'd venture to say its a Remington 597 .22 Long Rifle plinkin' gun!

    At least the grabbers can't (readily) parlay that into an 'assault' weapon.

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    Phssthpok wrote:

    I'd venture to say its a Remington 597 .22 Long Rifle plinkin' gun!

    At least the grabbers can't (readily) parlay that into an 'assault' weapon.
    I wouldnt put anything past that slimy bunch.
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    I had sent the link to this story to my brother. As a master of "satire" he responded with the following:

    SEE?????
    These evil guns!

    If nobody were allowed to have these terrible camouflaged shot guns then this guy would never have done this crazy thing! Everybody knows that the camouflage is the sign of the DEVIL!!!! An ordinary shotgun would not have been as likely to make this guy go crazy!! The camo has subliminal messages- [font="Porky's"]Kill, Kill, Kill...[/font]
    Even the press know this, as they felt it was significant enough to point it out in the news article.

    A good lawyer, if there is such a thing, will be able to shift the blame onto the evil gun itself or at least the manufacturer. Those bastards!! Theyshould prosecute the CEO and his upper management people to the fullest extent of the law.The shooter, sorry, alleged shooter,should get off because he was made insane by the camo on the gun. Everybody knows that.

    And all of you "gun" people should be seeking therapy so that you don't fall under the hysteria of gun hypnosis and become mass murders! You don't believe it can happen?

    You know that's why the cops call it gun "possession". It's because you are underthe spellof the DEVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

    Have a nice day.
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    <End satire>

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    WHEW!!!! I'm sure glad that I don't have any of those EVIL camo guns in my collection.:what:

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    I love how they threw in the Germany shooting to add more FEAR !



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    Can't be a Remington 597......he was able to kill 8 people with it, and I can't get through 3 rounds without a disabling jam. Worst .22 rifle ever.

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    Is that Remington the one with the PITA key safety thing? They are annoying.

    -ljp

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    Haven't seen a shot of the front door yet, was this another gun free zone?
    My bet is on it was. I know that the homes I go to have the signs.



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    http://www.examiner.com/x-2698-Charl...gun-free-zones

    We live 20 minutes from this tragedy . Our prayers are with all the families and loved ones .

    Let's fight so this type of insanity does not happen again . The MSM needs to understand and report the truth !

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