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    I've noticed for sometime that the Purdy liquor store has a sign prominently posted on the front door. "Must be 21 years of age ... to enter this store" I've informed them previously that you must be 21 only to purchase and have pointed them to conversations I've had with the Liqour Control Board. Yet, they still refuse to take the sign down.


    Anybody know an email for someone higher up at theLiqour Control Board than just the basic contact email? wslcb@liq.wa.gov

    On a side note, there's also a sign posted saying they "Reserve the right to refuse service to anyone". I'm not sure about this, but since they're state funded, wouldn't they have to provide service to everyone?

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    I would give a call to the Liquor Laws and Rules line and inform them they have a branch that is disregarding the correct postage and following of WA state law. They should get on that pretty quick.

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    I'd do as I do with other signs that are contrary to law, ignore it and do what you want anyway. I'd feel free to carry there and bring my children in spite of the sign.

    If the sign helps them keep out unattended minors who shouldn't be there I guess I don't have a problem with it.

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    adamsesq wrote:
    I'd do as I do with other signs that are contrary to law, ignore it and do what you want anyway. I'd feel free to carry there and bring my children in spite of the sign.

    If the sign helps them keep out unattended minors who shouldn't be there I guess I don't have a problem with it.

    -adamsesq
    I understand the sentiment, I don't want minors to be able to illegally purchase liquor there, however, if an ill-informed person were to see that sign they would think that they were not allowed to carry in the liquor store.

    I know that I was that way when I first started carrying. I had thought the Liquor stores were off limits to minors and therefore a person would not legally be able to carry there. It wasn't until someone from OCDO set me straight that I found out the facts.
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    I'll either draft a letter to them tonight or just make a phone call.
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    GIG HARBOR

    Contract Liquor Store: 646GIG HARBOR PURDY
    6705 TYEE DR
    GIG HARBOR WA 98332-8631Mon-Thu 11:00-7:00
    Fri-Sat 11:00-8:00
    Store Manager:
    SUSAN (253-857-5966)
    District Manager:
    EARL HILL (253-471-5338)

    Earl Hill
    District Manager
    Office: 253/471-5338
    Cell: 253/370-2250
    Roberson Bldg Ste 208
    Fax: 360/704-5021
    EH@LIQ.WA.GOV]
    6240 Tacoma Mall Blvd
    Tacoma WA 98409-6819











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    Ah, too bad they're not open on Sundays. I'll be in the neighorhood this weekend; thought maybe I'd stop in and pick up some of Grandpas Cough Syrup. And point out the error in signage.

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    M1Gunr wrote:

    GIG HARBOR

    Contract Liquor Store: 646GIG HARBOR PURDY
    6705 TYEE DR
    GIG HARBOR WA 98332-8631Mon-Thu 11:00-7:00
    Fri-Sat 11:00-8:00
    Store Manager:
    SUSAN (253-857-5966)
    District Manager:
    EARL HILL (253-471-5338)

    Earl Hill
    District Manager
    Office: 253/471-5338
    Cell: 253/370-2250
    Roberson Bldg Ste 208
    Fax: 360/704-5021
    EH@LIQ.WA.GOV]
    6240 Tacoma Mall Blvd
    Tacoma WA 98409-6819
    Thanks for the numbers M1, I called and spoke with a Mindy there (she answered Susan's #), and explained my position. The conversation was positive, she agreed to talk with Susan about it when she returned as well as to call the District Manager.

    I told her that I'd save her the hassle as I was about to call him as well. Which I did a few minutes later. Got no response but did leave him a voice mail with my concerns about the sign and my number to contact me back at.

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    Most welcome...


    Earl was quick to get back with me. If you send him an email you will have a transaction record that can be printed and used at a later date if needed.

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    Thanks, I'll do just that. I'll send him a follow up email.
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    Any update on this? I see that the signs are still on the front of the store, so nothing has changed.Does the Liquor Control Board have any control over this store? Is this store owned by the state, or is it a privately leased store that has a state franchise to sell liquor?

    I just answered my own question. I see that it is listed as a "contract store."Maybe contract stores can make their own rules because it is not owned by the state.

    If anyone has any information on this, please let us know.

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    kenshin wrote:
    I know that I was that way when I first started carrying. I had thought the Liquor stores were off limits to minors and therefore a person would not legally be able to carry there. It wasn't until someone from OCDO set me straight that I found out the facts.
    Really? I always thought you had to be 21 to enter a liquor store. Well at least I feel better im not the only one who has been disarming for no reason . Time to start carrying in liquor stores yay! :celebrate

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    Hey people!Of course you can carry in a State Liquor store,the liquor store in Wilbur,WA is also the local gun store,the owner is a great guy and got his FFL to help out the local guys as no one had one locally.

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    That's funny. I've been in that store with my 7yo and they didn't tell him to leave

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    libertynews wrote:
    That's funny. I've been in that store with my 7yo and they didn't tell him to leave
    Which one,Purdy,or Wilbur?Always kids in the Wilbur store,dogs too

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    SANDRAT wrote:
    libertynews wrote:
    That's funny. I've been in that store with my 7yo and they didn't tell him to leave
    Which one,Purdy,or Wilbur?Always kids in the Wilbur store,dogs too
    Purdy.


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    Ajetpilot wrote:
    Any update on this? I see that the signs are still on the front of the store, so nothing has changed.Does the Liquor Control Board have any control over this store? Is this store owned by the state, or is it a privately leased store that has a state franchise to sell liquor?

    I just answered my own question. I see that it is listed as a "contract store."Maybe contract stores can make their own rules because it is not owned by the state.

    If anyone has any information on this, please let us know.
    Sorry, I haven't followed through on this yet. Been incredibly swamped at work. I've called the store manager and left a message and then the district manager and left two messages but haven't gotten replies from either of them. I'll try another call to them today.
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    Just got off the phone with Earl Hill, the district manager. He said that he was heading over to the Purdy store and would have a discussion with the store manager there. I'll swing by on my way home and take a look since it's right on the way.
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    Did you get a chance to stop by yesterday, kenshin? Are the signs still up?

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    Ajetpilot wrote:
    Did you get a chance to stop by yesterday, kenshin? Are the signs still up?
    Signs are still up. I'm going to stop by again on my way home from work and speak with the store manager if she's available. I would have done so yesterday, but had some urgent business.
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    kenshin wrote:
    Signs are still up.

    Incredible. Apparently the District Manager has no control or authority over this store.

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    Or.... he didn't actually make it over there yesterday....
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    I have been searching for the rules (RCW, WAC) that govern State Liquor Stores, contract or otherwise, and haven't come up with anything. There is lots of information regarding bars and restaurants. I've been looking at http://liq.wa.gov/, RCW 66, and WAC 314.

    Cananyone cite any rules governing State Stores?

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    j2l3 wrote:
    Or.... he didn't actually make it over there yesterday....
    Give Mr. Hill a chance, he knows the law. He is the guy I worked with to get the Tacoma stores up to speed. Give hima few more days his territory is wide and he a guy to have on our side.

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