MrSigmaDot40
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Yea Yea, I haven't been around for a while, i've been waiting for the whole incorp thing (whatever happened with that?).
Anyway I came up with a ruff Idea for a civialin OP a while ago. How bout we make a real stand and show the people how its done?
I want to get a few people together and rent out an entire apartment complex in the worst neigboorhood in Oakland we can find. We offer to help clean it up, upgrade it, paint it, etc to help pay rent and to make living conditions up to standard.
Now, what we do is have the place be a flaming beacon of 2A. I'm talking UOC, OLL's, Etc, Etc.. We all take up on our training and develop special tactics and plans if any number of problems arise. (More Classified Tactics would involve less than lethal weapons so nobody can provoke a shooting easily )
I'm from Oakland that's all I'm willing to say but therecouldbe a liaison with the neighborhood though me, and Intel on the surrounding area. If I could find enough people and avacant enough complex I'd love to do this. I don't know how many of you work close enough or can make that type of change in life to do this but it is just a thought.
I would eventually like to occupy an entire city block (this is kind of a mini free state thing)but that is really pushing it. But for the apartment building I say put up a small fence, no trespassing signs, install inexpensive cameras, fly the American flag on the roof, couple NRA/Pro gun signs up to make it CLEAR that the building and its occupants aren't to be F*$%^ with.
I know its a long shot idea but damn it would sooooo work, the publicity would be great.
"Operation Fortress"
I'm thinking about posting up on CG also.
EDIT: Apt Examples:
This Is EXACTLY what i'm talking about right here!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/1103120300.html
$750 / 1br - Apartment ($1000.00 Moves You In) (oakland east) (map)
If you painted this place up, gave it a nice almond/off white type color to bring it into the 21st century and so new garage doors, it would make a world of difference. Get some scrap granite for countertops, etc ,etc. I'm sure we could get some help and materials from the cast firearms community. somebody may be able to donate a little paint, service, other materials (carpet etc). If i could find some people that aren't the color of the middle light on traffic lights i'd love to do it. I know it would be a little hard finding a vacant ENOUGH place, but they are out there.
Clarification EDIT:
I want to clear this up....
I am not saying that we would be honorary Volunteer Deputy Fire Marshal Officer Picklestiens. I'm not saying we set up shop and then call the police any everything from jay walking to kids riding bicycles without helmets.
This Op would be to show an example of what the average citizen can do, and what they can do with the help of their neighbors.
While whatever hell breaks loose around the area people are going to start wonder why nothing happens to the apartment complex? Why don't their apts get broken into? why don't their cars get stolen? why aren't they scared?
That's what its all about. My vision would have it setup in a DEFENSIVE manor (hence "Operation FORTRESS"). We would not be trying to be super heroes, taking down drugs spots. but as I said before if a stand needed to be made against whoever, I'd be down. if they don't like that we moved in on the block, then we can handle it however they want to bring it.
The goal here is to be an example and to slowly get to know the natives and try to educate them about 2A gun control, what's going on in the area, etc etc. We might be able to through bar b q's or whatever and really get in good with the people in the area.
That's the type of stuff I'm talking about, all the tactics and show of force is strictly for defense. We mind are business and fortify the complex that's it.
Yea Yea, I haven't been around for a while, i've been waiting for the whole incorp thing (whatever happened with that?).
Anyway I came up with a ruff Idea for a civialin OP a while ago. How bout we make a real stand and show the people how its done?
I want to get a few people together and rent out an entire apartment complex in the worst neigboorhood in Oakland we can find. We offer to help clean it up, upgrade it, paint it, etc to help pay rent and to make living conditions up to standard.
Now, what we do is have the place be a flaming beacon of 2A. I'm talking UOC, OLL's, Etc, Etc.. We all take up on our training and develop special tactics and plans if any number of problems arise. (More Classified Tactics would involve less than lethal weapons so nobody can provoke a shooting easily )
I'm from Oakland that's all I'm willing to say but therecouldbe a liaison with the neighborhood though me, and Intel on the surrounding area. If I could find enough people and avacant enough complex I'd love to do this. I don't know how many of you work close enough or can make that type of change in life to do this but it is just a thought.
I would eventually like to occupy an entire city block (this is kind of a mini free state thing)but that is really pushing it. But for the apartment building I say put up a small fence, no trespassing signs, install inexpensive cameras, fly the American flag on the roof, couple NRA/Pro gun signs up to make it CLEAR that the building and its occupants aren't to be F*$%^ with.
I know its a long shot idea but damn it would sooooo work, the publicity would be great.
"Operation Fortress"
I'm thinking about posting up on CG also.
EDIT: Apt Examples:
This Is EXACTLY what i'm talking about right here!
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/apa/1103120300.html
$750 / 1br - Apartment ($1000.00 Moves You In) (oakland east) (map)
If you painted this place up, gave it a nice almond/off white type color to bring it into the 21st century and so new garage doors, it would make a world of difference. Get some scrap granite for countertops, etc ,etc. I'm sure we could get some help and materials from the cast firearms community. somebody may be able to donate a little paint, service, other materials (carpet etc). If i could find some people that aren't the color of the middle light on traffic lights i'd love to do it. I know it would be a little hard finding a vacant ENOUGH place, but they are out there.
Clarification EDIT:
I want to clear this up....
I am not saying that we would be honorary Volunteer Deputy Fire Marshal Officer Picklestiens. I'm not saying we set up shop and then call the police any everything from jay walking to kids riding bicycles without helmets.
This Op would be to show an example of what the average citizen can do, and what they can do with the help of their neighbors.
While whatever hell breaks loose around the area people are going to start wonder why nothing happens to the apartment complex? Why don't their apts get broken into? why don't their cars get stolen? why aren't they scared?
That's what its all about. My vision would have it setup in a DEFENSIVE manor (hence "Operation FORTRESS"). We would not be trying to be super heroes, taking down drugs spots. but as I said before if a stand needed to be made against whoever, I'd be down. if they don't like that we moved in on the block, then we can handle it however they want to bring it.
The goal here is to be an example and to slowly get to know the natives and try to educate them about 2A gun control, what's going on in the area, etc etc. We might be able to through bar b q's or whatever and really get in good with the people in the area.
That's the type of stuff I'm talking about, all the tactics and show of force is strictly for defense. We mind are business and fortify the complex that's it.