Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
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[/b]Submitted for your discussion:[/b]
As the [/b]US [/b]government continues to expand their authority and allows US border patrols to set up suspicious-less checkpoints 100 miles from the [/b]US[/b] border, I have a few concerns.SCOTUS has ruled that these internal checkpoints are legal, but that your rights are the same as any other LEO stop, unlike the loss of your 4[suP]th[/suP] amendment rights at the border. [/b]
SCOTUS stated that you have to stop at these check points, but unless there is a reasonable suspicion of some violation of immigration law you do not have to answer any questions or consent to any searches.
[/b]If these stops are not based on any reasonable suspicion and you can exercise your 5[suP]th[/suP] and 4[suP]th[/suP] amendment rights would a CPL holder have to immediately disclose he was carrying a concealed weapon? Would he have to produce a driver’s license? [/b]
[/b]There are many videos of people resisting to submit to any commands from the border patrol including, not producing a driver’s license or any ID. The people are allowed to leave after being detained up to 30 minutes. It’s obvious from the videos that some of these officers are either ignorant of us law or are intentionally violating them.[/b]
[/b]Below is a map that shows the approximate area that the border patrol can set up these check points and enforce immigration laws [/b]Michigan [/b]This should cause every student of personal liberty a great deal of concern. No matter how bad immigration may, or may not be, to give up more personal freedoms in the fight of illegal immigrants, and ancillary to enforce drugs laws (Which in my opinion is the real reason, and don’t get me started on that subject.) is in all ways problematic. There have been check points in Tecumseh, [/b]Detroit [/b]and at least one in the UP.[/b]
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If anyone knows of any ongoing border patrol check point within the [/b]Michigan [/b]border please PM me.[/b]
[/b]Submitted for your discussion:[/b]
As the [/b]US [/b]government continues to expand their authority and allows US border patrols to set up suspicious-less checkpoints 100 miles from the [/b]US[/b] border, I have a few concerns.SCOTUS has ruled that these internal checkpoints are legal, but that your rights are the same as any other LEO stop, unlike the loss of your 4[suP]th[/suP] amendment rights at the border. [/b]
SCOTUS stated that you have to stop at these check points, but unless there is a reasonable suspicion of some violation of immigration law you do not have to answer any questions or consent to any searches.
[/b]If these stops are not based on any reasonable suspicion and you can exercise your 5[suP]th[/suP] and 4[suP]th[/suP] amendment rights would a CPL holder have to immediately disclose he was carrying a concealed weapon? Would he have to produce a driver’s license? [/b]
[/b]There are many videos of people resisting to submit to any commands from the border patrol including, not producing a driver’s license or any ID. The people are allowed to leave after being detained up to 30 minutes. It’s obvious from the videos that some of these officers are either ignorant of us law or are intentionally violating them.[/b]
[/b]Below is a map that shows the approximate area that the border patrol can set up these check points and enforce immigration laws [/b]Michigan [/b]This should cause every student of personal liberty a great deal of concern. No matter how bad immigration may, or may not be, to give up more personal freedoms in the fight of illegal immigrants, and ancillary to enforce drugs laws (Which in my opinion is the real reason, and don’t get me started on that subject.) is in all ways problematic. There have been check points in Tecumseh, [/b]Detroit [/b]and at least one in the UP.[/b]
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If anyone knows of any ongoing border patrol check point within the [/b]Michigan [/b]border please PM me.[/b]