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Live Veto Session
- Thread starter bnkrazy
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Citizen
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peter nap wrote:
That should play very well come next election.
Don't lookback, Senator. Just paddle faster.
peter nap wrote:
We need that recording!!!
That should play very well come next election.
Don't lookback, Senator. Just paddle faster.
IanB
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Citizen wrote:
Citizen wrote:
Wanna FOIA the video? I'll go in 50/50 for the costs!
IanB
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Deleted. -NSL
Deleted. -NSL
bnkrazy
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I could have recorded the stream if I thought it would've been useful. I recorded the session when a bill of interest came up earlier, but forgot to start it up today.
I could have recorded the stream if I thought it would've been useful. I recorded the session when a bill of interest came up earlier, but forgot to start it up today.
IanB
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I don't want the stream, the video quality was garbage. I want the raw, uncompressed video.
I don't want the stream, the video quality was garbage. I want the raw, uncompressed video.
bnkrazy
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Yeah well, I imagine you're likely planning to use itfor more than reviewing it to see who said what for personal notes. In that case, I agree, the raw video would be much preferred.
Yeah well, I imagine you're likely planning to use itfor more than reviewing it to see who said what for personal notes. In that case, I agree, the raw video would be much preferred.
hometheaterman
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So which ones passed and which ones didn't?
So which ones passed and which ones didn't?
fairfax1
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[/font] [font="Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"] What was shaping up to be a good day for gun owners turned out to be somewhat of a disappointment thanks to the State Senate. Governor Kaine was able to pick up enough votes to sustain vetoes on three of the five bills he vetoed. When the houses of origin had finished their work - only one veto had been sustained - SB 1035 - repeal of the restaurant ban. But when the House Bills moved to the Senate, what was shaping up to be a big win for gun owners turned out to be less than what was expected at the beginning of the day.
Vetoes overridden:
SB877 would allow "retired" law enforcement officers to carry concealed in a restaurant that serves food and alcohol. Unlike SB1035, this bill applies only to retired law enforcement officers and does not prohibit them from consuming alcohol.
SB1528 states that the safety course required for obtaining a concealed handgun permit, conducted by a state-certified or NRA-certified firearms instructor can be done electronically or online.
Vetoes sustained:
HB1851 would exempt active duty military personnel or Virginia National Guardsmen from Virginia's handgun rationing ("one-handgun-a-month") law. The House overrode the veto but the Senate fell short one vote - 26-14. This was probably the biggest surprise of the day as this passed the Senate 31-18.
HB2528 would establish that no locality or entity may participate in a compensated gun confiscation ("buyback") program, where individuals are given anything of value or money in exchange for surrendering a firearm to the locality, unless the governing body first passes an ordinance authorizing the gun "buyback." The House overrode the veto but the Senate fellthree votes short at 24-16.
SB1035 would permit a Right-to-Carry permit holder to carry concealed in a restaurant like Applebees, Olive Garden or any other restaurant that serves food and alcohol, provided he or she does not consume alcohol. The Senate vote fell short 24-16. [/font]
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[/font] [font="Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif"] What was shaping up to be a good day for gun owners turned out to be somewhat of a disappointment thanks to the State Senate. Governor Kaine was able to pick up enough votes to sustain vetoes on three of the five bills he vetoed. When the houses of origin had finished their work - only one veto had been sustained - SB 1035 - repeal of the restaurant ban. But when the House Bills moved to the Senate, what was shaping up to be a big win for gun owners turned out to be less than what was expected at the beginning of the day.
Vetoes overridden:
SB877 would allow "retired" law enforcement officers to carry concealed in a restaurant that serves food and alcohol. Unlike SB1035, this bill applies only to retired law enforcement officers and does not prohibit them from consuming alcohol.
SB1528 states that the safety course required for obtaining a concealed handgun permit, conducted by a state-certified or NRA-certified firearms instructor can be done electronically or online.
Vetoes sustained:
HB1851 would exempt active duty military personnel or Virginia National Guardsmen from Virginia's handgun rationing ("one-handgun-a-month") law. The House overrode the veto but the Senate fell short one vote - 26-14. This was probably the biggest surprise of the day as this passed the Senate 31-18.
HB2528 would establish that no locality or entity may participate in a compensated gun confiscation ("buyback") program, where individuals are given anything of value or money in exchange for surrendering a firearm to the locality, unless the governing body first passes an ordinance authorizing the gun "buyback." The House overrode the veto but the Senate fellthree votes short at 24-16.
SB1035 would permit a Right-to-Carry permit holder to carry concealed in a restaurant like Applebees, Olive Garden or any other restaurant that serves food and alcohol, provided he or she does not consume alcohol. The Senate vote fell short 24-16. [/font]
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fairfax1 wrote:
Marsh also went on and on on my favorite subject. Privileges for CHP holders. If they want more than one gun a month, let them get a CHP.
fairfax1 wrote:
Thanks Fairfax. HB1851 was where Saslaw talked about getting someone else to buy it for him and Marsh rambled on about it being a loophole for gun runners.
Marsh also went on and on on my favorite subject. Privileges for CHP holders. If they want more than one gun a month, let them get a CHP.
Citizen
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peter nap wrote:
Hail, Napius Caesar!
(Sorry. Couldn't resist.
)
peter nap wrote:
Hail, Napius Caesar!
(Sorry. Couldn't resist.
)VApatriot
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Maybe I misunderstood the vote, but it was my understanding that the veto ofSB877 was sustained by Senate and will not become law.
+1 Million on Saslaw needing to go. To give another example of how out of touch he is, while debating a non-gun bill, he said something about not being ableto go to a restaurant in NoVa without spending a $100 PER PERSON. I guess he has never heard of Outback or the Olive Garden. To me, spending $20+ for a dinner out is really living it up. But what do I know? I'm just a regular guy who wouldn't able to take care of myself without the government holding my hand. Thank God we have people like Dick Saslaw to tell us all what is in the best interest of our personal safety.
Maybe I misunderstood the vote, but it was my understanding that the veto ofSB877 was sustained by Senate and will not become law.
+1 Million on Saslaw needing to go. To give another example of how out of touch he is, while debating a non-gun bill, he said something about not being ableto go to a restaurant in NoVa without spending a $100 PER PERSON. I guess he has never heard of Outback or the Olive Garden. To me, spending $20+ for a dinner out is really living it up. But what do I know? I'm just a regular guy who wouldn't able to take care of myself without the government holding my hand. Thank God we have people like Dick Saslaw to tell us all what is in the best interest of our personal safety.
Bulldog1967
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VApatriot wrote:
I am sorry to say that Dick "Banjo" Saslaw is a NoVa anachronism who unfortunately is very deeply entrenched. I know as I waged a one man crusade to get him out last time as he is (unfortunately) my senator.
I would spend a great deal of money if we could get a viable candidate to take his seat and send him packing.
VApatriot wrote:
I am sorry to say that Dick "Banjo" Saslaw is a NoVa anachronism who unfortunately is very deeply entrenched. I know as I waged a one man crusade to get him out last time as he is (unfortunately) my senator.
I would spend a great deal of money if we could get a viable candidate to take his seat and send him packing.
TFred
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VApatriot wrote:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=091&typ=bil&val=sb877
30-10 in the Senate and 76-22 in the House.
TFred
VApatriot wrote:
SB877 was overridden:
http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?ses=091&typ=bil&val=sb877
30-10 in the Senate and 76-22 in the House.
TFred
TexasNative
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If I remember correctly, the veto of SB877 was sustained initially, but a Senator who voted to sustain the veto asked for reconsideration of the vote, and on the second vote the veto was overridden.
~ Boyd
If I remember correctly, the veto of SB877 was sustained initially, but a Senator who voted to sustain the veto asked for reconsideration of the vote, and on the second vote the veto was overridden.
~ Boyd
SicSemperTyrannis
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Well, we did a little better than last year! Last year, three pro-gun bills were passed into law. This year, the governor signed two pro-gun bills and two pro-gun bills that he vetoed passed after his vetoes were over-ridden, for a total of four pro-gun bills passed into law. Of course, there are other ways of looking at this, and not all pro-gun bills are equally important to most of us. Still, it is nice to see a small handful of pro-gun bills pass even after Va Tech and after the Senate became a Democratic majority. And as far as I can tell, there were no anti-gun / anti-second amendment bills passed.
Well, we did a little better than last year! Last year, three pro-gun bills were passed into law. This year, the governor signed two pro-gun bills and two pro-gun bills that he vetoed passed after his vetoes were over-ridden, for a total of four pro-gun bills passed into law. Of course, there are other ways of looking at this, and not all pro-gun bills are equally important to most of us. Still, it is nice to see a small handful of pro-gun bills pass even after Va Tech and after the Senate became a Democratic majority. And as far as I can tell, there were no anti-gun / anti-second amendment bills passed.
VApatriot
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TexasNative wrote:
TexasNative wrote:
Thank you for the clarification.
TFred
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VApatriot wrote:
03/30/09 Governor: Vetoed by Governor
04/07/09 Senate: Placed on Calendar
04/08/09 Senate: Passed in enrolled form (30-Y 10-N)
04/08/09 Senate: Motion to reconsider passed in enrolled form agreed to (40-Y 0-N)
04/08/09 Senate: Passed in enrolled form (30-Y 10-N)
04/08/09 House: Passed by temporarily
04/08/09 House: Governor's veto overridden (76-Y 22-N)
04/08/09 House: VOTE: --- OVERRIDE GOVERNOR'S VETO (76-Y 22-N)
TFred
VApatriot wrote:
I'm not sure that is correct. I wasn't able to listen the entire time, but I don't remember that happening the times I did watch, and the record that is shown on the LIS site does not say that happened. I'm just not sure how thorough that LIS record is, but I don't recall noticing any votes missing from that site before now. Their record of what happened shows this sequence:
03/30/09 Governor: Vetoed by Governor
04/07/09 Senate: Placed on Calendar
04/08/09 Senate: Passed in enrolled form (30-Y 10-N)
04/08/09 Senate: Motion to reconsider passed in enrolled form agreed to (40-Y 0-N)
04/08/09 Senate: Passed in enrolled form (30-Y 10-N)
04/08/09 House: Passed by temporarily
04/08/09 House: Governor's veto overridden (76-Y 22-N)
04/08/09 House: VOTE: --- OVERRIDE GOVERNOR'S VETO (76-Y 22-N)
TFred