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    I apologize for the appearence, but the formating is caused by cutting and pasting the informaiton.

    Read sections 4 and 5 of Penal Code Section 182, and I will be working to make this more presentable.


    California Penal Code Section 182

    (a) If two or more persons conspire:

    (1) To commit any crime.



    (2) Falsely and maliciously to indict another for any crime, or to procure another to be charged or arrested for any crime.


    (3) Falsely to move or maintain any suit, action, or proceeding.


    (4) To cheat and defraud any person of any property, by any means which are in themselves criminal, or to obtain money or property by false pretenses or by false promises with fraudulent intent not to perform those promises.


    (5) To commit any act injurious to the public health, to public morals, or to pervert or obstruct justice, or the due administration of the laws.


    (6) To commit any crime against the person of the President or Vice President of the United States, the Governor of any state or territory, any United States justice or judge, or the secretary of any of the executive departments of the United States.




    [size=4][size=5]California Penal Code Section 484

    (a) Every person who shall feloniously steal, take, carry, lead, or drive away the personal property of another, or who shall fraudulently appropriate property which has been entrusted to him or her, or who shall knowingly and designedly, by any false or fraudulent representation or pretense, defraud any other person of money, labor or real or personal property, or who causes or procures others to report falsely of his or her wealth or mercantile character and by thus imposing upon any person, obtains credit and thereby fraudulently gets or obtains possession of money, or property or obtains the labor or service of another, is guilty of theft. In determining the value of the property obtained, for the purposes of this section, the reasonable and fair market value shall be the test, and in determining the value of services received the contract price shall be the test. If there be no contract price, the reasonable and going wage for the service rendered shall govern. For the purposes of this section, any false or fraudulent representation or pretense made shall be treated as continuing, so as to cover any money, property or service received as a result thereof, and the complaint, information or indictment may charge that the crime was committed on any date during the particular period in question. The hiring of any additional employee or employees without advising each of them of every labor claim due and unpaid and every judgment that the employer has been unable to meet shall be prima facie evidence of intent to defraud.




    California Penal Code Section 12054

    (a) Each applicant for a new license or for the renewal of a license shall pay at the time of filing his or her application a fee determined by the Department of Justice not to exceed the application processing costs of the Department of Justice for the direct costs of furnishing the report required by Section 12052. After the department establishes fees sufficient to reimburse the department for processing costs, fees charged shall increase at a rate not to exceed the legislatively approved annual cost-of-living adjustments for the department's budget. The officer receiving the application and the fee shall transmit the fee, with the fingerprints if required, to the Department of Justice. The licensing authority of any city, city and county, or county may charge an additional fee in an amount equal to the actual costs for processing the application for a new license, excluding fingerprint and training costs, but in no case to exceed one hundred dollars ($100), and shall transmit the additional fee, if any, to the city, city and county, or county treasury. The first 20 percent of this additional local fee may be collected upon filing of the initial application. The balance of the fee shall be collected only upon issuance of the license.



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    Didn't know you could file criminal charges against the government, but if you can, go for it!

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    Theseus wrote:
    Didn't know you could file criminal charges against the government, but if you can, go for it!
    Only the DA's office can file charges. The DA is obligated to investigate if (s)he becomes aware of the criminal activity. And the FBI will investigate both the DA and the CLEO committing the crime(s) if there is evidence of corruption on their part.
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    Interesting. I doubt we would get much help there.

    CA_Libertarian wrote:
    Theseus wrote:
    Didn't know you could file criminal charges against the government, but if you can, go for it!
    Only the DA's office can file charges. The DA is obligated to investigate if (s)he becomes aware of the criminal activity. And the FBI will investigate both the DA and the CLEO committing the crime(s) if there is evidence of corruption on their part.

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    Theseus wrote:
    Interesting. I doubt we would get much help there.
    I doubt the DA will put his ass on the line to protect a local CLEO. If they do, they'd be very sorry when the FBI investigates. Something tells me the DA would rather not do federal time.
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