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Montana Sovereinty Bills have national scope

NewZealandAmerican

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JBinMontana wrote:
Gray Peterson wrote:
These bills are nothing more than complete wastes of political capital with no effect whatsoever. The ATFE and the FBI do not recognize these laws. All this will do is give a false sense of security to some gun owners, who think that somehow this law will protect them, and that somehow the state government will become their defense lawyer when they make a machinegun in their garage and the feds find out about it. I don't see the Montana or other AG's acting as defense lawyers. They will be hung out to dry as examples for everyone to see.

The real way of dealing with this problem is through the court system. After we get some rulings from SCOTUS about the Second Amendment, I can see the strong possibility of a challenge to the Hughes Amendment after we get full carry rights out of them (the Sykes case out of California *could* make it to SCOTUS defending on how badly the other side wants to fight, also there are other states with similar problems to California we can go after).

The right way to do this is through litigation, not through grandstanding BS state laws that are merely morsels of uselessness that state politicians throw gun owners way just to make us think that they "did something" for gun owners. These bills are worse than nothing.

Since you don't live here in Montana it sure seems you think, I use the word lightly think that you know it all.

Montana is well versed with telling the federal goverment where to get off... think back when all the other states were going to just bow to the REAL ID ACT. Yep, your own state included. Montana told them where to get off and won, still holding ground too. Don't tell us what you think you may know.... yep I know its tough living in a state that just lets the federal government run all over you.

Sorry take your soap box some place else. :celebrate

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