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    I can't give out too much info, but this was the most unprofessional conduct demonstrated by three officers of the Redmond PD towards me.



    -Guns drawn on me

    -pulled out of vehicle

    -no explainations

    -handcuffed immediately along with all other occuipants of my vehicle

    -my sidearm seized without consent

    -my wallet with IDs taken without my consent

    -detained and questioned but not allowed to reply to questions asked or ask any of my own questions.

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    Best of luck with what will follow.

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    Sounds like there are no questions to answer. Lawyer up!

    If they didn't arrest you, they didn't have proof in the first place to detain you in such a way. That's my thought.

    Post no more, get council.

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    Going to call around in the morning.

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    PolskiG wrote:
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    -my wallet with IDs taken without my consent
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    I am starting to notice a trend with regards to the officers taking the wallet.

    Maybe it is time (for some) to carry somewhat sterile? Meaning no ID in your wallet.

    I have though of keeping mydrivers license in my car with the registration, instead of in my wallet.
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    PolskiG wrote:
    Going to call around in the morning.
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    The above attorney has taken on cases of police misconduct regarding open carry from those of us on this board and is aware of our site/group.
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    PolskiG wrote:
    I can't give out too much info, but this was the most unprofessional conduct demonstrated by three officers of the Redmond PD towards me.



    -Guns drawn on me

    -pulled out of vehicle

    -no explainations

    -handcuffed immediately along with all other occuipants of my vehicle

    -my sidearm seized without consent

    -my wallet with IDs taken without my consent

    -detained and questioned but not allowed to reply to questions asked or ask any of my own questions.
    1. Were you arrested?

    2. Did you get your firearm back?

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    sounds like you just won the lottery...
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    Wow. Just wow. Naturally you will be filing a formal complaint along with lawyering up? This is assuming of course this was related to OC, which while implied is not formerly stated. For instance were you pulled over on the road, or in a parking lot? Any odd chance you met the description of a robbery suspect? Or a thousand and one other questions that come to mind. I appreciate keeping the details sparse, but I think you could reasonably share a little more without jeopardizing anything.

    I'm guessing of course this was OC related, and if so this is major league suckage man. Really, really sucky. Hope all is well.



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    Good luck, it must have been a scary experience.

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    Pls keep us informed of what happens. I am not discouraged about incidents like this, it just seems like some of the police departments around our state need some formal training on the laws!



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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Wow. Just wow. Naturally you will be filing a formal complaint along with lawyering up? This is assuming of course this was related to OC, which while implied is not formerly stated. For instance were you pulled over on the road, or in a parking lot? Any odd chance you met the description of a robbery suspect? Or a thousand and one other questions that come to mind. I appreciate keeping the details sparse, but I think you could reasonably share a little more without jeopardizing anything.

    I'm guessing of course this was OC related, and if so this is major league suckage man. Really, really sucky. Hope all is well.

    I know huh? Thought Redmond was up to speed. Apparently not... Yes, I'm filing a compliant and seeking counsel

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    HankT wrote:
    PolskiG wrote:
    I can't give out too much info, but this was the most unprofessional conduct demonstrated by three officers of the Redmond PD towards me.



    -Guns drawn on me

    -pulled out of vehicle

    -no explainations

    -handcuffed immediately along with all other occuipants of my vehicle

    -my sidearm seized without consent

    -my wallet with IDs taken without my consent

    -detained and questioned but not allowed to reply to questions asked or ask any of my own questions.
    1. Were you arrested?

    2. Did you get your firearm back?

    I'm sorry. I have answers but can't give them outright now, I did call Randy Loun just now, leaving a message for him.


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    http://nwcdl.org/FirearmLawyers.html

    There are a couple of others on here you might want to call just for comparative purposes.
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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    Wow. Just wow. Naturally you will be filing a formal complaint along with lawyering up? This is assuming of course this was related to OC, which while implied is not formerly stated. For instance were you pulled over on the road, or in a parking lot? Any odd chance you met the description of a robbery suspect? Or a thousand and one other questions that come to mind. I appreciate keeping the details sparse, but I think you could reasonably share a little more without jeopardizing anything.

    I'm guessing of course this was OC related, and if so this is major league suckage man. Really, really sucky. Hope all is well.


    -Man with gun call

    -parking lot

    -related to OC


    -police insisted that my oc was"illegally fluanting" mygun which caused alarm and that any type of OC was illegal in this state because it causes public alarm. The officers contacted the911 caller, to see if he/she wanted to press charges against seeing my gun inthe open.



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    PolskiG wrote:
    -Man with gun call

    -parking lot

    -related to OC


    -police insisted that my oc was"illegally fluanting" mygun which caused alarm and that any type of OC was illegal in this state because it causes public alarm. The officers contacted the911 caller, to see if he/she wanted to press charges against seeing my gun inthe open.
    THAT sounds distinctly like a calculated response. Could we be witnessing a planned push back on the part of Redmond PD?

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    PolskiG wrote:


    -Man with gun call

    -parking lot

    -related to OC


    -police insisted that my oc was"illegally flaunting" mygun which caused alarm and that any type of OC was illegal in this state because it causes public alarm. The officers contacted the911 caller, to see if he/she wanted to press charges against seeing my gun inthe open.

    Holy Fourth Amendment Batman!

    I don't recall any reference to "flaunting" anywhere in the RCW. If that's the case I should be arrested everytime I leave the house for being soo dang hot!

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    I called RPD this morning to get info on how to file a formal compliant. I officer who pick up the phone was very "nice" to me and started asking me details of the incident, personalwho/what/where/whystuff, I told him that Irather notgive that information to him directlyand only wanted info on filing procedure, he understood and I ended the conversation. I will seek counsel before I file a compliant.

    I have two other witnesses in the car with me at the time who were also subjected to the same poor treatment I was

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    FOIA Request.... do it, do it now...

    Request everything from the written reports, the radio traffic, the original 911 call and other record associated with this call.
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    j2l3 wrote:
    FOIA Request.... do it, do it now...

    Request everything from the written reports, the radio traffic, the original 911 call and other record associated with this call.
    Do I have go to the PD to request it??? Should I OC while doing it???

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    Yes. OC? Yes, as long as your attorney is with you.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Yes. OC? Yes, as long as your attorney is with you.
    ok, well if I do it today my attorney won't be present since I don't technical have one yet.

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    PolskiG wrote:
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    Yes. OC? Yes, as long as your attorney is with you.
    ok, well if I do it today my attorney won't be present since I don't technical have one yet.
    Gotta get that part fixed. An attorney would be very important right now. Do you mind telling where this incidence occurred? I have and do OC in Redmond (I'm in Bellevue as well), and would like to know where they acted so unprofessionally.
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    Tawnos wrote:
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    Yes. OC? Yes, as long as your attorney is with you.
    ok, well if I do it today my attorney won't be present since I don't technical have one yet.
    Gotta get that part fixed. An attorney would be very important right now. Do you mind telling where this incidence occurred? I have and do OC in Redmond (I'm in Bellevue as well), and would like to know where they acted so unprofessionally.
    Attorneys don't generally work on saturday. This happened near crossroads, sears,microsoft, and next door to group health hospital

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    Right on the Redmond/Bellevue border.

    Also, get any video from the patrol cards if any.
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