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    This happened last week.

    I OC my Glock 23Cin a Blackhawk serpa holster about 90% of the time I am carrying.



    My GF just got her first firearm recenlty and I have been helping her get comfortable with the idea of carrying. We both have our CHP (concealed handgun permit) and she does not feel comfortable OCing, though she also owns and uses a serpa holster.



    We were getting ready to go out and I strapped on my G23C like normal (one in the pipe). My GF says, "what if someone does this and tries to take it..." while she reaches from behind me to try and grab my gun, and puts her hand on the grip in a semi-drawing manner. :shock::what:



    I instinctively reacted. Grabbed her wrist, twisted, and made her bend over via wrist manipulation. As soon as I realized what I was doing, I let go. Of course I was the one appologizing. I told her that it was a bad idea to try and grab my weapon, especially if I'm not prepared for it.



    I used to teach an introductory self defense course and have done a decent amount of force on force practice/training.



    Moral of the story: Basic training can go a long way in weapon retention. Muscle memory and reflex do exist.

    Sometimes it can not be a good thing, though I won't tell anyone that.


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    I've had several instances of this with the wife, only once actually ended up with her hurt, and I keep telling her if she wants a broken nose like she had the one time, she can keep coming up behind me and grabbing me; my instincts will be more than happy to oblige.

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    holy crap, a broken nose.

    You don't joke around.

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    About 7 years ago she reached into my leather jacket pocket while I was driving our new Sebring andI rear ended a van . Last month she went to grab me from the left side and I almost tore her finger off .

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    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    Moral of the story: Basic training can go a long way in weapon retention. Muscle memory and reflex do exist.
    But they told me a thousand times: If I carry a firearm, some bad guy will take it from me and I would be powerless to stop them!

    Who am I supposed to believe now? I'm so disillusioned.

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    Was the sole point of your post to gloat about your perceived ninjacat-like reflexes?

    I get that feeling....
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    If you go for my firearm, I will snap your hand off.

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    TechnoWeenie wrote:
    Was the sole point of your post to gloat about your perceived ninjacat-like reflexes?

    I get that feeling....


    I thought it was about posting domestic abuse stories on an already inflammatory, probably watched, site.

    If you can't tell the difference between your gf joking around and someone actually trying to take your gun, then your ninja reflexes aren't as great as you thought.

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    Maybe its time to surrender your gat because you are domestically violent:? Next time just give her a wee grab on the girly bits. Works just as well and doesn't require an ace wrap to deal with the after effects.

    Disclaimer: The above was offered mostly in the spirit of facetiousness and good fun.

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    The point is, sometimes reflexes are greater than you expect. I knew I was home, and there was no threat present, but it still didn't stop my brain and body from reacting.

    If anyone unexpectedly goes for my gun, then the consequences are on them. It is just ammusing because 'the people' are always spouting that someone will try and take your gun and you will be defensless. It simply isn't true.

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    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    The point is, sometimes reflexes are greater than you expect. I knew I was home, and there was no threat present, but it still didn't stop my brain and body from reacting.
    Disingenuous. "Reflexes" are well known and the list of them in humans are memorized in medical training. This is excusing thoughtlessness as 'reflex' and a lie.

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    Thank you for this post. This a classic example of what my father, grandfather, uncles (all military men) and my instructors and my lieutenant in the fire service had drilled into my head when I was young, "you fight like you train."

    When I became a auxiliary patrolman, I was trained on the job the same way. And because of this training I lost my job. Oh well.



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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    The point is, sometimes reflexes are greater than you expect. I knew I was home, and there was no threat present, but it still didn't stop my brain and body from reacting.
    Disingenuous. "Reflexes" are well known and the list of them in humans are memorized in medical training. This is excusing thoughtlessness as 'reflex' and a lie.
    Yes, there are a set of reflexes that are common among all people. There are also 'reflexes' that are trained. Call the muscle memory if you want. If you repeat a set of actions a certain number of times, then they will become ingrained. Then when a situation occurs, your instinctively repeat the actions. That is what happened here. It was not thoughtlessness as you seem to believe. As soon as my brain caught up, I dissenguaged what I was doing. That .5 seconds happens rather quickly.

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    i had to get a concealed weapons permit to put my hands in my pockets. and i constantly get harassed for open carrying them :/

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    /me laughs

    I'm sorry. Trained reactions are funny to me and since you grabbed the wrist the story brought back memories. I've taken down friends who decided to take my own knife and dink around with it, some acting in jest, "Whatcha going to do now?"

    I wouldn't worry too much about it, she probably understands fully. My reaction would've been to break the wrist, which is what I've almost done on multiple occasions. I had friends with wrists which hurt for weeks. All I could say in jest, "Well, you learned not to do that again, huh?"
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    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    holy crap, a broken nose.

    You don't joke around.
    Well, it wasn't on purpose, for sure. And I didn't break it but she was sure sore for a few days. The point is, supposedly after this has happened already, you would learn not to do what caused it to happen in the first place.....but I still have to say this from time to time.

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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    The point is, sometimes reflexes are greater than you expect. I knew I was home, and there was no threat present, but it still didn't stop my brain and body from reacting.
    Disingenuous. "Reflexes" are well known and the list of them in humans are memorized in medical training. This is excusing thoughtlessness as 'reflex' and a lie.
    For once (twice now?) the old man makes a good point.

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    ^no, he doesn't.

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    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    ^no, he doesn't.
    Agreed!

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    AWDstylez wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    JDriver1.8t wrote:
    The point is, sometimes reflexes are greater than you expect. I knew I was home, and there was no threat present, but it still didn't stop my brain and body from reacting.
    Disingenuous. "Reflexes" are well known and the list of them in humans are memorized in medical training. This is excusing thoughtlessness as 'reflex' and a lie.
    For once (twice now?) the old man makes a good point.
    For both of you--I've got a question.

    Scenario #1--Person A throws a baseball at or near the face ofPerson B. B has never played baseball or any similar sport and therefore reflexively ducks.
    Scenario #2--Same as above, except that B is a professional baseball player and is well-used to catching a baseball on short notice. Therefore, B--without conscious thought--catches the ball.

    I call Scenario #2 reflex. Most people call it reflex, or even learned instinct. What do you call it?

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    Flyer22 wrote:
    I call Scenario #2 reflex. Most people call it reflex, or even learned instinct. What do you call it?
    Maybe 'preparedness' in the technical sense, but not reflex. 'Ducking' is an escape reflex that only involves the brain after the fact, assuming survival.

    Reflex (by definition) does not involve the brain. They synapse in the spine, in the case of a reflex like the withdrawal reflex, 'ducking', or in the muscle itself in the case of a reflex like the patellar reflex, 'knee jerk', with one chemical synapse from the sensory neuron directly to the associated motor neuron.

    A polysynaptic reflex can be inhibited in the spinal cord, so you can make yourself be hit in the head by the ball.


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    Doug Huffman wrote:
    Flyer22 wrote:
    I call Scenario #2 reflex. Most people call it reflex, or even learned instinct. What do you call it?
    Maybe 'preparedness' in the technical sense, but not reflex. 'Ducking' is an escape reflex that only involves the brain after the fact, assuming survival.

    Reflex (by definition) does not involve the brain. They synapse in the spine, in the case of a reflex like the withdrawal reflex, 'ducking', or in the muscle itself in the case of a reflex like the patellar reflex, 'knee jerk', with one chemical synapse from the sensory neuron directly to the associated motor neuron.

    A polysynaptic reflex can be inhibited in the spinal cord, so you can make yourself be hit in the head by the ball.

    So when I swat a mosquito like someone grabbing my gun are you saying I think about it first ?




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    AWDstylez wrote:
    TechnoWeenie wrote:
    Was the sole point of your post to gloat about your perceived ninjacat-like reflexes?

    I get that feeling....


    I thought it was about posting domestic abuse stories on an already inflammatory, probably watched, site.
    Ah...couldn't resist...




    To the quoted poster: just bustin' your stones for humor purposes, no harm intended!


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