NATO fiddles while pirates burn our ships

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Thundar wrote:

Sonora,

Don't get me wrong. I certainly am not "Pro-Pirate" I was just commenting on the weak and cheap shot that Mike made at NATO, when what was really happening was that the Naval Officers are following International Law and the treaties that their nations have signed.

Thundar

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NATO is a pig past it's prime. Remember SEATO? No... nobody else does either. There is no 'treaty' regarding piracy... or lack of prosecution thereof. Somolia isn't in the the NATO TO... but then... neither is A'stan. Apparently the Indian Navy has no such reservations. The Dutch 'n Canadians are restricted by their individual governments lack of nads... 'simple as that.

Definition:

Piracy has posed a threat to all states’ maritime interests for nearly as long as people have sailed the oceans.1 States have long recognized the threat that piracy poses to political and commercial interests, as well as to human safety.2 Since pirates operate on the seas, the “great highway of all maritime nations,” and since piracy can inflict harm upon all states, international law treats piracy as a universal crime whose perpetrators are subject to punishment by any state that apprehends them.3

This (in the past) was the Captain of any flagged warship representing a legitimate nation state. This involved conviening a Summary Court aboard the flagged ship of nation... and trying the pirates captured. The verdict normally being universal that the actors were in fact pirates or hostagesand executed/dismissed accordingly.

It's NOT rocket science... it's justice.

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The hand wringing and legal mumbo jumbo is exactly what is wrong with this country and the pussies who are now in charge.

The Navy was created for this very issue and there is precedence for our Navy acting without anyone's "permission" to protect American ships.

But when cowards and pussies like the current Administration and Majority in Congress and the Senate start debating legal rights of pirates, you can be sure that bad things are going to happen to Americans for years to come.

JUST SINK EVERY PIRATE SHIP YOU SEE AND INTERNATIONAL LAW BE DAMNED. FLIP OFF THE WORLD and TAKE OUT EVERY PIRATE THE NAVY SEES.

No prisoners. No warning. Nothing, just kill them. Don't give them lawyers. Don't give them safe harbor. Follow them where ever they run and bomb them and their dirty little villages into dust. Better for everyone that way.

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An acquaintance sent me this in an e-mail this AM, and I thought it apropos to the discussion:

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This is probably a hoax...but what a interesting vacation concept...lock & load!

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This is the best idea yet. Be sure and read the whole thing. I was
checking cruise lines because I heard the rates are very cheap right now.

I found a Somali cruise package that departs from Sawakin (in the Sudan) and
docks at Bagamoya (in Tanzania).

The cost is a bit high @ 800 per person double occupancy but I didn't find
that offensive. What I found encouraging and enlightened is that the cruise
is encouraging people to bring their 'High powered weapons' along on the
cruise. If you don't have your own weapons you can rent them right there on
the boat. They claim to have a master gunsmith on board and will have
reloading parties every afternoon as well as optional marksmanship training.
The cruise lasts from 4-8 days and nights and costs a maximum of $3200 per
person double occupancy (4 days).All the boat does is sail up and down the
coast of Somalia waiting to get hijacked by pirates. Here are some of the
costs and claims associated with the package $800.00 US/per day double occupancy (4 day max billing)

M-16 full auto rental $ 25.00/day ammo at 100 rounds of 5.56 armor
piercing ammo at 15.95

AK-47 riffle @ No charge. ammo at 100 rounds of 7.62 com block ball
ammo at 14.95

Barrett M-107 .50 cal sniper riffle rental 55.00/day ammo at 25
rounds 50 cal armor piercing at 9.95

Crew members can double as spotters for 30.00 per hour (spotting
scope included).

Wow - they even offer RPG's at 75 bucks and 200 dollars for 3
standard loads.

"Everyone gets use of free complimentary night vision equipment and
coffee and snacks on the top deck from 7pm-6am." Meals are not included but costs seem reasonable.

Most cruises offer a mini-bar... these gung ho entrepreneurs
offer......... get this.....

"MOUNTED MINIGUN AVAILABLE @ 450.00 per 30 seconds of sustained
fire"

(Sign me up for that!)

They advertise group rates and corporate discounts......and even claim "FUN
FOR THE WHOLE FAMILY"

They even have a partial money back offer if not satisfied....here's some
text from the ad.

"We guarantee that you will experience at least two hijacking attempts by
pirates or we will refund half your money back including gun rental charges
and any unused ammo (mini-gun charges not included). How can we guarantee
you will experience a hijacking. We operate at 5 knots within 12 miles of
the coast of Somalia. If an attempted Hijacking does not occur we will turn
the boat around and cruise by at 4 knots. We will repeat this for up to 8
days making three passes a day along the entire length of Somalia. At night
the boat is fully lit and bottle rockets are shot off at intervals and loud
disco music beamed shore side to attract attention. Cabin space is limited
so respond quickly.Reserve your package before the end of May and get
100 rounds of free tracer ammo in the caliber of your choice."

As if all that isn't enough to whet your appetite, there were a few
testimonial

"I got three confirmed kills on my last trip.? I'll never hunt big
game in Africa again.? I felt like the Komandant in Schindlers list!"----
Lars, Hamburg, Germany?

"Six attacks in 4 days were more than I expected.? I bagged three
pirates and my 12yr old son sank two rowboats with the mini-gun.? PIRATES?
0 - PASSENGERS-32!? Well worth the trip. Just make sure your spotter speaks
English" - Ned, Salt Lake city, Utah USA?

"I haven't had this much fun since flying choppers in NAM. Don't
worry about getting shot by pirates as they never even got close to the ship
with those weapons they use and their squirrelly aim-reminds me of a drunken
'juicer' door gunner we picked up from the motor pool back in Nam"-"chopper'
Dan ----Toledo USA.

"Like ducks in a barrel. This is must do! - Zeke, Minnahaw Springs,
Kentucky, USA

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I can see the Amazing Race Clue Box now!

"In this leg, each team must travel to Sawakin (in the Sudan) and board a cruise ship in search of Somali Pirates. During this cruise, each team must capture a souvenier from a pirate boat to receive their next clue."

Travelocity could make a fortune here!

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Guys, we don't need a lot of firepower to stop the pirates. They're riding around in inflatable Zodiacs. A decent blowgun with a nice sharp dart will do the trick. Then offer them a choice: Surrender or Swim.

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XD-GEM wrote:

Guys, we don't need a lot of firepower to stop the pirates.  They're riding around in inflatable Zodiacs.  A decent blowgun with a nice sharp dart will do the trick.  Then offer them a choice: Surrender or Swim.

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Like I said in the other thread, people are way overreacting. Simply allow crews to arm themselves to whatever degree they so desire, and piracy will simply disappear.

The days of well-equipped pirates running around in warships are never to return. At least, not here on the planetary surface.

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marshaul wrote:

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The days of well-equipped pirates running around in warships are never to return. At least, not here on the planetary surface.

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:what:

SPACE PIRATES?????

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