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    What: MOC Picnic and 2nd Amendment March Town Hall Meeting.
    Where: Sunset Park, Traverse City, MI
    When: Saturday June 27th at Noon to 4:00 PM or whenever.
    Why: For good friends, good food and to learn more about the 2nd Amd. March next April.
    Who: MOC and the Second Amendment March.

    Contacts: Brian Jeffs, President of MOC---Skip Coryell, SA March founder and organizer.

    Please set aside this date for a great gathering of friends and patriots. Bring food to cook or a dish to pass. Also bring your own tableware, beverages, and a few portable chairs if desired. MOC staff will supply the charcoal, condiments, grills and some meats (hot-dogs, burgers, and brats). This is a family friendly get together and youdon't have to OC ifyou don't want to. Come out and have some fun and learn more about OC and the March on DC.

    Dress for and bring things you need for a day at the beach. Sun-Set Park is between the Holiday Inn on the west and the Great Lakes Maritime Academy on the east. It’s a great location for swimming and you can fish on the Maritime Pier. There are plenty of picnic tables, but a lawn chair is more comfortable. Parking is on the east side of the park.

    A March representative will speak at the picnic and talk aboutthe March followed by some Q&A.

    We will be contacting the media and most likely will get a spot on the Norm Jone's Show on AM radio in TC. Norm has helped us in the past and he might even show up at the event.

    PM SpringerXDacp and let him know how many in your group, and what you want to bring.



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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    I'll be there or be square!!! Let me know of any things needed. We can rally up before and after at the store, it's a few blocks away.

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    This event is coming up June 27th, so plan accordingly. We will have a guest speaker from the March available to answer your questions about the goals of the March and what you can do to help.


    Scott from the Discerning Shootist will have Second Amendment March (SAM) and MOC merchandise for sale at his store both before and after the picnic. Scott wants to be at the picnic so the store may be closed during the event. We hope to have a few items to auction off as well. All profit goes to the SAM and MOC respectively.

    I encourage you all to visit the store either before or after the picnic to purchase some great stuff and help protect our 2nd Amendment rights. See map above. The store is less than ¾ of mile from the park.

    The Discerning Shootist Llc
    721 Woodmere Ave
    Traverse City, MI 49686

    (231) 932-1559


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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    I am making plans to be there.
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    Everyone do your best to bring sunshine with you. It should be alt of FUN!

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    I hope to be there I will see If my wife can get the day off.
    I love Traverse City.

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    TTT

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    This event is next Saturday. IF you are in the TC area stop on by and say hi.
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    Venator wrote:
    This event is next Saturday. IF you are in the TC area stop on by and say hi.
    Anyone elsegoing toTCthis Saturday, June 27th?

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    We are going to need as many pro OC folks as possible. It promises to be decent weather. Local LEO's are interested, but I do not think for nefarious reasons.I think some of them are genuinely interested in helping us with what we are trying to accomplish.
    Besides that, the local newspaper interviewed me Monday (http://www.record-eagle.com/ ) and sometime this week they will be running it. I could tell she was pleasantly surprised when I told her about us what we are trying to accomplish.

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    Also remember to bring your own tableware, drinks, and a dish to share. I have hot dogs and buns, with a dish to share.

    We need charcoal or a gas grill. The park has a couple of small charcoal grills.

    I would suggest you bring foldingchairs, it looks like the park only has about 7 picnic tables.
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    I got a gas grill.

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    I plan an coming weather permitting. Im bringing minisforme from MGO.

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    sierra2006 wrote:
    I plan an coming weather permitting. Im bringing minisforme from MGO.
    Contrary to popular belief we welcome MGO members, hell I'm a member of MGO.:celebrate

    If you come please bring some food to share, I'm worried we may get 200 people there with only 150 hot dogs to feed the masses. Then again if it rains there will be a lot of leftovers.
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    Dang... i want to be there, but somebody planned a birthday party for Saturday.... grrr...

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    http://www.record-eagle.com/local/lo...176070026.html



    Gun-toting picnic coming to TC


    By Sheri McWhirter
    smcwhirter@record-eagle.com


    TRAVERSE CITY -- Gun advocates have Traverse City in their cross hairs.

    A nonprofit group called Michigan Open Carry, Inc., on Saturday will host a gun-toting picnic at Sunset Park along East Front Street, an effort leaders said is intended to promote the legal, open carry of firearms and the U.S. Constitution's Second Amendment.

    Scott Sieffert owns the Discerning Shootist store on Woodmere Avenue in Traverse City and is helping to promote the event and cause.

    He is a firearms safety and concealed pistol license instructor.

    "A lot of it is based upon a person's rights in Michigan. It's to let people know they can openly carry a gun on their person," Sieffert said. "Guns aren't evil. They are no more evil than tools like a drill or a chain saw or an automobile. It's how you use it."

    That means participants will be walking around with pistols in hip holsters in a public park. Not everyone thinks it's a bang-up idea.

    The event may raise apprehension, particularly among those who may not be aware of the event, said Deni Scrudato, a Traverse City commissioner.

    "What will people think if they've driven by and seen a bunch of people openly carrying guns? People will be concerned," she said.

    Scrudato understands the gathering is legal, but she questions whether the picnic is little more than a chance for participants to "show off" their gun ownership.

    She's not alone in her worries.

    "I find it a little disturbing," said Virgilene Warren, who lives a few blocks from the park. "It sounds like something that shouldn't be in a neighborhood. I really don't think it's appropriate."

    Warren said she has no qualms about gun ownership, but is scared by the notion of firearms carried in a park where neighborhood children play.

    "It may cause concern for some," but not everyone, said Fred Wilmeth, president of Traverse City's Oak Park Neighborhood Association.

    Reactions will depend on where people stand on firearms laws, he said.

    Wilmeth doesn't own a gun, but isn't opposed to those who do, he said.

    The picnic is not designed to intimidate, but spread awareness of Michigan's open carry law, as well as increase interest and donations for next year's planned "Second Amendment March" in Washington, D.C., said Brian Jeffs, president of Michigan Open Carry.

    "It's a group of pro-gun people who promote the open carry of a handgun, which is legal in Michigan. A lot of people don't realize that, even those in law enforcement," Jeffs said.

    Traverse City Police Chief Michael Warren knows the law and is prepared for concerned calls from passersby on Saturday.

    "It's 100 percent legal as long as the gun is properly registered and openly displayed," Warren said. "We'll have adequate staff on in case there are any issues, but we are not anticipating any."

    Michigan law allows the open carry of pistols in a hip holster, so long as the weapon is not brandished, or waved menacingly.

    Emergency services dispatchers are trained to explain the legality of the situation to worried 911 callers, Warren said.

    "I'm sure we'll probably get a couple calls on it," he said.

    City commissioners in March changed an ordinance that previously prevented firearms possession in city parks. The local law contradicted state law and had to be repealed, said R. Ben Bifoss, city manager.

    It's unknown how many people will show for the event, although such gatherings tend to attract between 30 and 150 people, Jeffs said.

    The picnic is scheduled from 12 to 4 p.m. on Saturday.

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    "Warren said she has no qualms about gun ownership, but is scared by the notion of firearms carried in a park where neighborhood children play."

    Never fails, someone (sheep) always has to throw in the "children" trump card.


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    Oh yes the antis have done a good job of pulling the wool over peoples eyes... and the light hurts when we yank the wool off!
    Anything I post may be my opinion and not the law... you are responsible to do your own verification.

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    Don't I look good? I'm working on my response for when the Newspaper is there on Saturday(just guessing). Overall, I think we got a pretty fair shake considering the local political climate.


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    I'll be up there with my wife and kids. I expect that we'll have a great time.
    Good friends, good food, good cause.

    See you there.

    Skip

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    Just an update, the local tv station-WPBN 7&4 just interviewed me for the 6o'clock news. Please somebody smarter than me make sure we get a copy of that to link, as long as I didn't screw up.

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    Wish I had the time...

    Hope you guys have a great time!

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    FYI,

    MichiganFarmer contacted Wayne Schmidt about the TC event. Mr. Schmidt said he willtry to attend.

    Wayne Schmidt
    State Representative-elect
    104th Michigan House District
    http://www.wayneschmidt.com/


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    WE are as ready as we are going to be. Hope to see all tomorrow that I can.
    God Bless.
    (Pray for sunshine).
    Scott

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    Scott, I'll stop by your shop if I get there before the rally.
    I love a good gun store.

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