2) Since we are a site dedicated to open carry,firearms and gun rights, all posts should relate substantially to one of these topics, even if your comments pertain mainly to freedom andliberty.
HA! Although tempting, probably not the best way to gain the love from the Anti's who just need a reason.. But you get a dancing banana for the effort! I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact the Police showed up to save this mans life. Go figure.So why hasn't anyone shot that sign yet?(kidding)
I think the police showed up to protect innocent bystanders--including the guy's family--from an unstable person with a gun who had made overt threats of violence.I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact the Police showed up to save this mans life. Go figure.
I believe that the PURPOSE of buncopanies posting was classic troll: to generate negative responses.On the contrary, Charles... I believe that buncopanies posting of this sign is well with the scope of this websites rules regarding topic, andI am glad he posted it. My wife sawthe signyesterday, buthad not toldme about it.
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum1/1.html2) Since we are a site dedicated to open carry,firearms and gun rights, all posts should relate substantially to one of these topics, even if your comments pertain mainly to freedom andliberty.
Okay, i hear that.ProtectedBy9mm wrote:I think the police showed up to protect innocent bystanders--including the guy's family--from an unstable person with a gun who had made overt threats of violence.I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact the Police showed up to save this mans life. Go figure.
Minor fact correction. The new armored van normally sells for $200k but was donated to Utah County by the Utah company that builds them, it didn't cost the taxpayers anything but the license plates.the fuzz came in with their brand new armored van that set you and me back $200k
I think the police showed up to protect innocent bystanders--including the guy's family--from an unstable person with a gun who had made overt threats of violence.
Officers arrived to find Batchelor's father and sister locked outside the house, unable to get in. Officers heard a crash inside the home, and thinking Batchelor was still alive and needing assistance, they kicked in the back door and went inside.
Sunday night, they say Batchelor was feeling depressed and alone. He had a disagreement with his wife. "At 8:45 [p.m.], Mike texted all of his siblings and his wife and he said 'I love you. Goodbye,'" Barrowman said. She went to check on him, heard a gunshot and called 911.
Batchelor was upset that his wife, who filed for divorce last week, had left the home with their three children that night, Howard said. Batchelor then sent her a cell phone text message that read, "I love you and goodbye."
After receiving the message, Batchelor's wife called his sister, who went to the home to check on her brother, Howard said. When she and a neighbor arrived, the doors of the home were locked. The pair called police when they heard a gunshot, Howard said, and police arrived at 8:52 p.m.
Or the police.So unless you were there and saw and witnessed the whole thing and knew exactly what was going on; please don't make accusations about the guy or his family.
I agree with the majority of your post. but allow me to answer the above captioned:packingmama wrote:...If you had been there and this person pointed a loaded shotgun at you, tell me you wouldn't have taken the shot to protect yourself....So unless you were there and saw and witnessed the whole thing and knew exactly what was going on; please don't make accusations about the guy or his family.
Thank you. A great point I'd forgotten. On a couple of different occasions, a friend or family member has asked me to keep his guns for him. Just seemed a bit safer at the time than having them in the home and easily accessed by someone who was having a bit of a rough patch.If this guy was going through such emotional distress and depression, his family and friends should have secured his weapons! I know if I ever become severely depressed I would hope/expect my family to do so for me.
Many times the cops are involved with the pill popper and the wrist slasher. It is just these calls are less dangerous for the LEO's GENERALLY than the distraught individual with a gun! I listen to a police scanner and many times a WEEK here in UTAH COUNTY the EMS crews are pre-staged until the LEO's can have a situation that is under control for the EMS crew.ScottyT wrote:Thank you. A great point I'd forgotten. On a couple of different occasions, a friend or family member has asked me to keep his guns for him. Just seemed a bit safer at the time than having them in the home and easily accessed by someone who was having a bit of a rough patch.If this guy was going through such emotional distress and depression, his family and friends should have secured his weapons! I know if I ever become severely depressed I would hope/expect my family to do so for me.
Do this, and it becomes a lot easier to heed Jensen's advice not to call the cops to solve a potential suicide problem. A guy who pops a bunch of pills or even slits his wrists gets an ambulance. A guy who is just really, really down, gets a visit from his family, friends, or clergy. At worst, maybe a ride to see a counselor. But a guy with a gun often ends up with cops, and then too often ends up dead.
I simply cannot be overly critical of the police in these cases. They get called, they respond. The fault lies with the person, and his friends/family.
Charles
I agree about the police, I should have included this.packingmama wrote:Or the police.So unless you were there and saw and witnessed the whole thing and knew exactly what was going on; please don't make accusations about the guy or his family.