T Dubya
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I don't have the bill number. The Brady Bunch is behind it.
I don't have the bill number. The Brady Bunch is behind it.
I wonder how states rights fit into this?
True, but there is no such thing as overzealous protection of medical records.How sad to see Senator Gillibrand of NY co-sponsoring this ridiculous bill. I hope I never know what it is like to have so totally sold out my core values for the benefit of politics. She must be real proud of herself about now.
Also very disturbing to see that the Brady Bunch has turned Omar Samaha (VT victim relative) into a total liar. "My sister Reema was shot and killed at Virginia Tech because of a loophole with the background check system for gun purchases." The loophole that allowed that murderer to purchase firearms was the overzealous protection of medical records, nothing to do with gun shows. As always, they are barking up the wrong tree in the wrong forrest.
TFred
Will somebody please tell these morons that felons and the dangerously mentally ill cannot, now, legally buy guns.I finally got an answer to my question:
Me: I don't understand the "gun show loophole." Private sellers are selling their private firearms to another private person. So, changing this would mean they'd have to drive down the street from the gun show and then do the same thing?
I don't see how that's changing anything really.
To clarify a little, the reason I ask is I don't understand the focusing on gun shows. Won't that just drive people away from gun shows for the private sales and they do them elsewhere? As in, what's so important about place A (gun shows) if people can just do the same thing at places B-Z (any other place)?
Brady: (They deleted their first reply and rewrote it. I didn't think to save it at first, but it was more basic. Along the lines of "We support universal backgrounds checks")
Me again: I see, so this would be a stepping stone.
Brady (new reply): Currently at a gun show FFL dealers are at competitive disadvantage because of the need to maintain paperwork and check backgrounds. This law will make it more fair for the small, law abiding FFL gun dealers that perform background checks and will allow them to better compete against the unlicensed sellers.
The Brady Campaign would like to see comprehensive, universal background checks on all gun sales so that felons and the dangerously mentally ill will not be able to legally buy them.
And seeing how all Republicans "up there" are criminals:arrowroblem solvedAll those "Dems" up there are just mad because "their" mental status prevents them from legally buying firearms. :lol:
I sent a pre-emptive email to my Congressional Rep to oppose this.
The calls for these bills have never made sense to me. Why focus on gun shows? No one seems to be able to tell me.
If private person A can sell to another private person without a background check anywhere in the state, why focus on gun shows? Why forbid private sales at place A (gun shows) if the same transaction is fine at places B-Z (anywhere else)?
Is the sole purpose to drive business away from gun shows? After all, anyone with any common sense would simply advertise their firearm for sale on the internet, then meet up anywhere except a gun show to make the transaction (if this bills goes through). All it accomplishes is losing all the incidental sales (t-shirts, ammo, etc) from those people attending the gun show.
Last weekend I was at a gunshow in SC and one of the booths had a sign saying that you must have a SC drivers license to purchase a gun. I asked the fellow about it and he said that his were a private sale and he decided to put the sign up after one fellow from Wisconsin got terribly upset because he refused to sell him a gun and let him walk out the door with it.
But if it could set up a fast, efficient and effectiveway to handle a privateparty transfers at gun shows....it would be appealing to me. I would establish fiveperformance parameters for such a system.
1. Fast. Very fast.
2. Free (zero cost).
3. Fair, sure, and fastway to unpack a failed transfer.
4. Automaticcheck of transferred gun for stolen/crime involvement status.
5. Fast. Very fast.
I could live with that. Such a system would be beneficial to me and others, so I'm pretty sure I'd be in favor of it.