Lord_Kalen
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I'llstate Im a bad writer first so bear with me , especialy expressive writing
I was shopping at a local antique/handcrafts consigmentstore when a women shopper asked me if I was carrying a gun, I replied politely yes and a knife and slid my coat back slightly show them ( midcalf length camo duster) she seemed more curious then intemidated and was impressed when I handed her my knife ( safely ,handle first ) and commented on the construction and the beauty of the wood . This was infront of the register with an employee present we talked abit about my weapons and she asked me Had i ever used them , I said the gun no but i use the knife regularly and gave a few examples one of note was an occasion in the past when I used it to dig a truck out of the sand we talked abit about how she used to carry a boot dagger in the past and the guy at the register showed his batton he carries and there was some conversation about this I talked abit about me sidearm and its age (Colt police Positive made in1915) and she asked if I was worried about it being unsafe I told her no , and a withdrew it opened the cylinder and tried to show her the saftey bar inside the frame under the hammer, I let her see one of the rounds but never handed over the Colt , I reholstered it with it drawing no negative commentary and kept the muzzle in a safe direction at all times, When she and her friend left they were in a positive mood and I felt I had "humanized" myself and my arms fairly well and after paying for An old Stanley spokeshave that caught my eye I thanked the employee and left ....
This store sells knives and has an old musket is for sale Ive seen a guy bring in a 410 revolver /ammo and show it to the men who run it , and Ive shown them atleast my knife before with only positive results and have talked about renting space there
I got to the stoplight saw a patrol car pass and was about to cross the street when I heard an" excuse me can I talk toyou sir" from behind me and turned to face a cop who asked if i was carrying to which I replied yes , then asked if I had a permit , as several more showed up he said someone had called the ploice and explained they get calls even about off duty officers carrying, I handed my permit over to one who asked for it and talked with one the original officer politely about guns andcarry abit. Then the officer asked me about my permit being somewhat out of date ( 4months) and why I hadnt renewed I admited I had been busy and abit strapped for cash and was trying to start a woodcrafting business and he said he understood .
This Officer then asked me " werent you involved in a shootout with the FBI a few years back ? " I replied it wasnt a shootout I was unarmed and shot in the back , to which he replied replied understand when it involves police everthings a shootout and I once again stated I was unarmed , and unfortunantly my lawyer backed out on my lawsuit .
They took my gun and knife and said they were just gonna hold them and I would get them back then a few minutes later one of them said I was being arrested for conceal carry they called a van from the jail and I was tooken to the police station and booked after about 1/2 to 1 hour a was released and told I was being charged with 9-41-270 though not given a reason and given an arraignment date for may 5th
I asked was my knife being returned ? and stated I considered my arms articles of my religion and philosophy (Odinist, Volkisch) I was told my mother was waiting for me and when I talked to her she said someone had called the cops that had worked there .
Im certain it wasnt the cashier , Im thinking it was a guy (consigner) I had seen carrying up a shelf , that I offered to help bring up the stairs earlier as he had a cellphone on his side to my memory
I was hoping I would be sent a document stating the reason charges but none has arrived in the week since , I did nothing intentionally intimidated and my actions were in intention to promote understanding and nothing I consider unsafe , Ive had dozens of simliar exchanges over the years with people and 95% of the time there positive
Needless to say with my adrenaline crashing and from the experience coupled with the removal of items that I in many ways need to soothe my moderate case of PTSD from an "exemplary act of FBI training" I got home and curled up with my cat and a rifle
Anyways for the time Being Im back to OC .....
I'llstate Im a bad writer first so bear with me , especialy expressive writing
I was shopping at a local antique/handcrafts consigmentstore when a women shopper asked me if I was carrying a gun, I replied politely yes and a knife and slid my coat back slightly show them ( midcalf length camo duster) she seemed more curious then intemidated and was impressed when I handed her my knife ( safely ,handle first ) and commented on the construction and the beauty of the wood . This was infront of the register with an employee present we talked abit about my weapons and she asked me Had i ever used them , I said the gun no but i use the knife regularly and gave a few examples one of note was an occasion in the past when I used it to dig a truck out of the sand we talked abit about how she used to carry a boot dagger in the past and the guy at the register showed his batton he carries and there was some conversation about this I talked abit about me sidearm and its age (Colt police Positive made in1915) and she asked if I was worried about it being unsafe I told her no , and a withdrew it opened the cylinder and tried to show her the saftey bar inside the frame under the hammer, I let her see one of the rounds but never handed over the Colt , I reholstered it with it drawing no negative commentary and kept the muzzle in a safe direction at all times, When she and her friend left they were in a positive mood and I felt I had "humanized" myself and my arms fairly well and after paying for An old Stanley spokeshave that caught my eye I thanked the employee and left ....
This store sells knives and has an old musket is for sale Ive seen a guy bring in a 410 revolver /ammo and show it to the men who run it , and Ive shown them atleast my knife before with only positive results and have talked about renting space there
I got to the stoplight saw a patrol car pass and was about to cross the street when I heard an" excuse me can I talk toyou sir" from behind me and turned to face a cop who asked if i was carrying to which I replied yes , then asked if I had a permit , as several more showed up he said someone had called the ploice and explained they get calls even about off duty officers carrying, I handed my permit over to one who asked for it and talked with one the original officer politely about guns andcarry abit. Then the officer asked me about my permit being somewhat out of date ( 4months) and why I hadnt renewed I admited I had been busy and abit strapped for cash and was trying to start a woodcrafting business and he said he understood .
This Officer then asked me " werent you involved in a shootout with the FBI a few years back ? " I replied it wasnt a shootout I was unarmed and shot in the back , to which he replied replied understand when it involves police everthings a shootout and I once again stated I was unarmed , and unfortunantly my lawyer backed out on my lawsuit .
They took my gun and knife and said they were just gonna hold them and I would get them back then a few minutes later one of them said I was being arrested for conceal carry they called a van from the jail and I was tooken to the police station and booked after about 1/2 to 1 hour a was released and told I was being charged with 9-41-270 though not given a reason and given an arraignment date for may 5th
I asked was my knife being returned ? and stated I considered my arms articles of my religion and philosophy (Odinist, Volkisch) I was told my mother was waiting for me and when I talked to her she said someone had called the cops that had worked there .
Im certain it wasnt the cashier , Im thinking it was a guy (consigner) I had seen carrying up a shelf , that I offered to help bring up the stairs earlier as he had a cellphone on his side to my memory
I was hoping I would be sent a document stating the reason charges but none has arrived in the week since , I did nothing intentionally intimidated and my actions were in intention to promote understanding and nothing I consider unsafe , Ive had dozens of simliar exchanges over the years with people and 95% of the time there positive
Needless to say with my adrenaline crashing and from the experience coupled with the removal of items that I in many ways need to soothe my moderate case of PTSD from an "exemplary act of FBI training" I got home and curled up with my cat and a rifle
Anyways for the time Being Im back to OC .....