T Vance
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Ooooh, tell me about this lien system in which you speak. I've never heard of that before. :shock:any information that was entered into the lien system about me, if any,
Does anyone know if it is possible to FOIA LEIN information about yourself? I'm not sure this can be done. If it can, PLEASE point me in the right direction because I'd LOVE to see what's in there about me.T Vance wrote:Ooooh, tell me about this lien system in which you speak. I've never heard of that before. :shock:any information that was entered into the lien system about me, if any,
How is this?
OK, I looked it up.Ethan_Frome wrote:Does anyone know if it is possible to FOIA LEIN information about yourself? I'm not sure this can be done. If it can, PLEASE point me in the right direction because I'd LOVE to see what's in there about me.T Vance wrote:Ooooh, tell me about this lien system in which you speak. I've never heard of that before. :shock:any information that was entered into the lien system about me, if any,
The only access I've had to LEIN was through a friend of mine who staged pulling me over so he had an excuse to run me and tell me what he saw. But this is a big no-no amongst the cop community... and I will take his identity to my grave with me.
I've done a ton of research regarding LEIN and discovered it is one of the hardest things to gather information about. There is no real clear indication of anything about it that's available to the average citizen... at least as far as I can tell. I called the MSP to see if I could get a record of mine and they told me no. The only thing I can really find about LEIN that comes directly from law enforcement is that they claim it's a networked system to allow LEO's to better understand, and communicate about, the subjects they interact with. Personally, I think it's a system designed to arm LEO's with more information in which to form discriminatory opinions of the person they're dealing with.Veritas wrote:OK, I looked it up.Ethan_Frome wrote:Does anyone know if it is possible to FOIA LEIN information about yourself? I'm not sure this can be done. If it can, PLEASE point me in the right direction because I'd LOVE to see what's in there about me.T Vance wrote:Ooooh, tell me about this lien system in which you speak. I've never heard of that before. :shock:any information that was entered into the lien system about me, if any,
The only access I've had to LEIN was through a friend of mine who staged pulling me over so he had an excuse to run me and tell me what he saw. But this is a big no-no amongst the cop community... and I will take his identity to my grave with me.
My question now is would they have information in the system if the subject was not cited for anything? In this example he was cited for tags, but if there was no citation at all would it be common practice for a leo to add a notation into the system on the stop?
Edited: the link I prematurely posted was from Minnesota. Sorry!
Wow, this is uber interesting stuff. Thanks for the feedback.Ethan_Frome wrote:I've done a ton of research regarding LEIN and discovered it is one of the hardest things to gather information about. There is no real clear indication of anything about it that's available to the average citizen... at least as far as I can tell. I called the MSP to see if I could get a record of mine and they told me no.Veritas wrote:OK, I looked it up.Ethan_Frome wrote:Does anyone know if it is possible to FOIA LEIN information about yourself? I'm not sure this can be done. If it can, PLEASE point me in the right direction because I'd LOVE to see what's in there about me.T Vance wrote:Ooooh, tell me about this lien system in which you speak. I've never heard of that before. :shock:any information that was entered into the lien system about me, if any,
The only access I've had to LEIN was through a friend of mine who staged pulling me over so he had an excuse to run me and tell me what he saw. But this is a big no-no amongst the cop community... and I will take his identity to my grave with me.
My question now is would they have information in the system if the subject was not cited for anything? In this example he was cited for tags, but if there was no citation at all would it be common practice for a leo to add a notation into the system on the stop?
Edited: the link I prematurely posted was from Minnesota. Sorry!
What I've been able to discern (I'm pretty sure, at least) is that any time a REPORT is made about you, it goes into the LEIN. And I'm pretty sure that any time an officer responds to a call/complaint, a report is generated. I do know, however, that it's not just citations that get into the LEIN system. LEIN contains a plethora of data about individuals that stems beyond the scope of your speeding and seatbelt violations. Obviously, arrests make it on there (whether charges are dropped or not).
I was able to paste that data together based on articles and court cases published about officers who abused the LEIN system by using it to stalk ex-girlfirends and/or their ex's new significant others. In response to the abuse of this system, law enforcement regulators have taken a very proactive stance against abusers of the system. If you think, even just for a moment, that an officer has run your LEIN without just cause (i.e. traffic stop), you can make a complaint with their departments Internal Affairs division and they will pull records to determine whether or not your record was run, and if so, for what permissible purpose. If it's determined that an officer ran your record without cause, it's a big deal. I believe the first offense is something like a $500 fine and suspension... second offense is pretty much termination. I'm basing this from memory, though, and could be wrong.