MissRoadWarrior
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Hello. I registered to ask for opinions on a particular matter. I live near Cascade Township and utilize on a regular basis one of the township’s parks located near my home to walk my dog. I have a CPL and carry concealed while there.
In the summer, I prefer to walk my dog either early in the morning or later in the evening when it’s cooler and the park isn’t as populated. Often, I am approached by people, both adults and kids, curious about my dog or just looking to make conversation. I typically don’t mind as most people are just being friendly. However, on a couple of occasions, I’ve been approached by lone adult males which, although most likely well-meaning individuals themselves, made me feel a bit uncomfortable nonetheless. Suffice to say, that if either of them had had ill-intent, their close proximately in standing right next to me would’ve made it difficult for me to get to my weapon in time to fend off an attack. I’m thinking that if I were to OC in the park, perhaps such individuals would be less inclined to approach me.
Rules of park usage are posted on the township’s website:
http://www.cascadetwp.com/ReferenceDesk/OrdinancesResolutions/CascadeParkOrdinance.htm
With respect to firearms, the following is taken from said website (Section 3. (B) applicable):
The “other person authorized by state law” seems to cover CPL holders who are presumably carrying concealed. However, the latter part of paragraph B seems to suggest that if I (or anybody, for that matter) wish to open carry in the park, a permit from the township is required (which, IMO, is in violation of the state's preemption law).
Am I reading that correctly?
Also, what should I make out of this sign that is posted at the entrance to the park:
As you can see, rule #4 clearly states that no firearms are allowed in the park, which would seem to apply to both CPL holders and OC practitioners
Sorry for the long post.
Thoughts?
Hello. I registered to ask for opinions on a particular matter. I live near Cascade Township and utilize on a regular basis one of the township’s parks located near my home to walk my dog. I have a CPL and carry concealed while there.
In the summer, I prefer to walk my dog either early in the morning or later in the evening when it’s cooler and the park isn’t as populated. Often, I am approached by people, both adults and kids, curious about my dog or just looking to make conversation. I typically don’t mind as most people are just being friendly. However, on a couple of occasions, I’ve been approached by lone adult males which, although most likely well-meaning individuals themselves, made me feel a bit uncomfortable nonetheless. Suffice to say, that if either of them had had ill-intent, their close proximately in standing right next to me would’ve made it difficult for me to get to my weapon in time to fend off an attack. I’m thinking that if I were to OC in the park, perhaps such individuals would be less inclined to approach me.
Rules of park usage are posted on the township’s website:
http://www.cascadetwp.com/ReferenceDesk/OrdinancesResolutions/CascadeParkOrdinance.htm
With respect to firearms, the following is taken from said website (Section 3. (B) applicable):
Section 3. Hunting, Fishing and Molesting Wildlife
A. No person within the confines of [the] Park, unless authorized by written permit of the Township Board, shall hunt, pursue with dogs, trap or in any other way molest any wild bird or animal found within the confines of the Park, or therein rob or molest any bird nest or take the eggs of any bird. No persona shall fish in any waters in the Park in any manner. No person, other than a police officer or other person specifically authorized by law to do so, shall discharge a firearm in the Park.
B. No person except a police officer, Sheriff or other person authorized by state law, shall carry firearms of any description, or air rifle, slingshot, or missile throwing device within the Park, or discharge any firearms, fireworks or explosive substances, or air rifle therein without specific permit from the Township.
The “other person authorized by state law” seems to cover CPL holders who are presumably carrying concealed. However, the latter part of paragraph B seems to suggest that if I (or anybody, for that matter) wish to open carry in the park, a permit from the township is required (which, IMO, is in violation of the state's preemption law).
Am I reading that correctly?
Also, what should I make out of this sign that is posted at the entrance to the park:
As you can see, rule #4 clearly states that no firearms are allowed in the park, which would seem to apply to both CPL holders and OC practitioners
Sorry for the long post.
Thoughts?