Spongebob
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Fox 6 news at 9. They are having a story on this tonight.
Fox 6 news at 9. They are having a story on this tonight.
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Pewaukee man busted for open carry?
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Nutczak
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Spongebob wrote:
Spongebob wrote:
Website for video?? links?
Spongebob
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I am working on the link now, looks like a school zone violation, They haven't aired the story yet...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/44015697.html
I am working on the link now, looks like a school zone violation, They haven't aired the story yet...
http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/44015697.html
Spongebob
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messed up, now he can't see his little girl. The system works! God.... WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!?!?!?!?
Everybody make sure to sign the petition to get rid of the school zone law, and for oc in cars! This pertains to both.
messed up, now he can't see his little girl. The system works! God.... WHAT ARE THEY THINKING!?!?!?!?
Everybody make sure to sign the petition to get rid of the school zone law, and for oc in cars! This pertains to both.
hugh jarmis
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I'd hate to see someone inadvertently walk into a school zone and get busted. But until the law changes (if it changes) knowingly going to a school while transporting your gun inside your vehicle on your person.
This guy clearly never visited opencarry.org. He'd know better.
So he was wearingthe gun in a holster in his vehicle? In a school zone? double no no.
I'd hate to see someone inadvertently walk into a school zone and get busted. But until the law changes (if it changes) knowingly going to a school while transporting your gun inside your vehicle on your person.
This guy clearly never visited opencarry.org. He'd know better.
Spongebob
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Keep in mind, that the facts in the story may be incorrect, or at least twisted. Hugh jarmis, switch on fox 6 quick its comin on after this commercial! I hope this guy does not hurt the cause.
Keep in mind, that the facts in the story may be incorrect, or at least twisted. Hugh jarmis, switch on fox 6 quick its comin on after this commercial! I hope this guy does not hurt the cause.
Max
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Too bad, I hate to see someone facing a felony who had no ill intent. It is also too bad that he brought the gun onto school grounds as he cannot even challenge the validity of the 1,000 foot rule now.
Before people open carry, they MUST know the laws that may impact them. Imagine, someone getting arrested for open carrying and his name is not Jesus.
Too bad, I hate to see someone facing a felony who had no ill intent. It is also too bad that he brought the gun onto school grounds as he cannot even challenge the validity of the 1,000 foot rule now.
Before people open carry, they MUST know the laws that may impact them. Imagine, someone getting arrested for open carrying and his name is not Jesus.
Spongebob
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I agree nevinsb, something more is going on here. The journal said he removed the gun in the car. I highly doubt that he was driving down the street OC. who knows....
I agree nevinsb, something more is going on here. The journal said he removed the gun in the car. I highly doubt that he was driving down the street OC. who knows....
hugh jarmis
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Hopefully they don't charge him with a felony. I hope law enforcement doesn't try to make an example out of him or take out their frustration that people are exercising their rights by throwing the book at him hard.
Having said that. He should have known better.
From the TV report it sounds like the guy was otherwise law abiding. Yet another perfect example of how our government and their 'feel good legislation' and 'zero-tolerance mentality' turns law abiding people into criminals.]
I mean assault someone. Steal from someone. Threaten someone. Destroy property... whatever... Throw the book at them. But god forbid you walk over a line in the sand and you're felon for life?
I agree. cross a line in the sand and now he's going to be a felon?
Hopefully they don't charge him with a felony. I hope law enforcement doesn't try to make an example out of him or take out their frustration that people are exercising their rights by throwing the book at him hard.
Having said that. He should have known better.
From the TV report it sounds like the guy was otherwise law abiding. Yet another perfect example of how our government and their 'feel good legislation' and 'zero-tolerance mentality' turns law abiding people into criminals.]
I mean assault someone. Steal from someone. Threaten someone. Destroy property... whatever... Throw the book at them. But god forbid you walk over a line in the sand and you're felon for life?
Nutczak
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if thecurrent story is correct,
the guy F'ed-up royally and broke several laws. and gave us all a black-eye.
He should have researched the laws and this would not have happened. I feel sorry for him becuase he will most likey be charged as a felon, and lose most of his rights now.
To combat situations like this happening in my area, I have been printing theappropriate statutes, restrictions and other pertinent info and posting them at the popular gun shop in town so the people that decide to O-C know the laws they must abide by, along with knowingtheir rights, and how not to have their rights violated.
if thecurrent story is correct,
the guy F'ed-up royally and broke several laws. and gave us all a black-eye.
He should have researched the laws and this would not have happened. I feel sorry for him becuase he will most likey be charged as a felon, and lose most of his rights now.
To combat situations like this happening in my area, I have been printing theappropriate statutes, restrictions and other pertinent info and posting them at the popular gun shop in town so the people that decide to O-C know the laws they must abide by, along with knowingtheir rights, and how not to have their rights violated.
GJD
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He should have known the law - he is going to give lawfull OC'ers a bad name.
That being said - the laws need to be clarified and lightened. I'm not a threat to small children while walking the opposite direction of my house - but I cannot OC because my house is only two block away from an elementary school. There was too big of a reaction when they decided to pass the school zone law. Prosecute the criminals (bad people) but leave the rest of us alone!
He should have known the law - he is going to give lawfull OC'ers a bad name.
That being said - the laws need to be clarified and lightened. I'm not a threat to small children while walking the opposite direction of my house - but I cannot OC because my house is only two block away from an elementary school. There was too big of a reaction when they decided to pass the school zone law. Prosecute the criminals (bad people) but leave the rest of us alone!
Max
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After reading the article again, he must have ratted himself out to the police. Never talk to the police, it can only hurt you.
After reading the article again, he must have ratted himself out to the police. Never talk to the police, it can only hurt you.
LS16SpdZ99
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So let me get this straight.... you can't havea firearm in a car 1000 feet from school??? Or does this just apply to OC. I live with in 1000 feet of a school and this is easily something that could get me in trouble. Now does this only apply if i park on the street, but not in my driveway. Man we need everybody to sign that petition
So let me get this straight.... you can't havea firearm in a car 1000 feet from school??? Or does this just apply to OC. I live with in 1000 feet of a school and this is easily something that could get me in trouble. Now does this only apply if i park on the street, but not in my driveway. Man we need everybody to sign that petition
Mike
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Look at the statute at http://nxt.legis.state.wi.us/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates&fn=default.htm&d=stats&jd=948.605.
The exceptions include being on private property, and if unloaded, provided gun is either than encased or locked in a vehicle gun rack.
Now an encased handgun carried in your hand is also arguably an unlawfully concealed handgun being carierd about your person - so if you carry an unloaded handgun in a case, I would make sure it is a locked case.
Anyway you look at it, this Wisconsin 1000 ft scgool zone statute is a problem. I think only Calif. has such a zone - anyone know if any other state has such a zone?
Look at the statute at http://nxt.legis.state.wi.us/nxt/gateway.dll?f=templates&fn=default.htm&d=stats&jd=948.605.
The exceptions include being on private property, and if unloaded, provided gun is either than encased or locked in a vehicle gun rack.
Now an encased handgun carried in your hand is also arguably an unlawfully concealed handgun being carierd about your person - so if you carry an unloaded handgun in a case, I would make sure it is a locked case.
Anyway you look at it, this Wisconsin 1000 ft scgool zone statute is a problem. I think only Calif. has such a zone - anyone know if any other state has such a zone?
bnhcomputing
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Here is my letter to the JS editors, If they run it, you guys will have to let me know.
Here is my letter to the JS editors, If they run it, you guys will have to let me know.
hugh jarmis
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So lets take bets.
What are the odds this guy in pewaukee gets a stiffer sentence than this guy:
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/44007447.html
Washington High Student Arrested for Carrying Gun in School
By Dan O'Donnell
MILWAUKEE - The Milwaukee Police Department arrested an 18 year-old Washington High School student Wednesday after the school's principal saw the young man carrying a handgun in the hallway.
"The student appeared to be concealing a handgun in his waistband, so the principal called the student into the office," Milwaukee Police Sgt. Mark Stanmeyer explained in a news release. "Once in the office, school staff recovered a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol from the student and held him for officers."
The suspect is a convicted felon and is currently on probation for a firearms-related offense. He will be referred to the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office for possible criminal charges.
So lets get this straight. This adult (he's 18) who is ALREADY a convicted felon, takes a CONCEALLED gun into A SCHOOL ZONE. (ding ding, In hockey, thats a hat-trick)
-felon in possesion of a firearm
-concealled weapon
-school zone felony violation IN the school
I'm going to make a note to myself to follow this case and see what happens to the kind of person who law OUGHT to come down on, (this 18 year old convicted felon) compared to the (by news accounts) otherwise law-abiding citizen in pewaukee who didn't educate himself in the law.
This news story is the one guys like Mayor Barrett and Ed Flynn and ALL the other mamby pamby fear-mongering/sky-is-going-to-fall anti-gun talking heads need to take a hard look at. MAYBE they would realize that BAD GUYS ALREADY HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS. BAD GUYS ARE ALREADY FORBIDDEN TO HAVE GUNS. BAD GUYS DON'T OPEN CARRY. HELL, BAD GUYS DON'T EVEN BUY HOLSTERS, they "tuck it in their waistband"
Are you paying attention Mayor Barrett?
And its nice to see convicted felons with concealled weapons in a school zone get "called to the principles office" while Eddie Flynn promises to have his troops "take to the ground and disarm" law abiding citizens when he see's them.
Ed Flynn thinks law abiding citizens open-carrying deserve that kind of treatment but a felon carrying a concealled gun in school, they take him to the principles office FIRST and then call police?????
So lets take bets.
What are the odds this guy in pewaukee gets a stiffer sentence than this guy:
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/44007447.html
Washington High Student Arrested for Carrying Gun in School
By Dan O'Donnell
MILWAUKEE - The Milwaukee Police Department arrested an 18 year-old Washington High School student Wednesday after the school's principal saw the young man carrying a handgun in the hallway.
"The student appeared to be concealing a handgun in his waistband, so the principal called the student into the office," Milwaukee Police Sgt. Mark Stanmeyer explained in a news release. "Once in the office, school staff recovered a .22 caliber semi-automatic pistol from the student and held him for officers."
The suspect is a convicted felon and is currently on probation for a firearms-related offense. He will be referred to the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office for possible criminal charges.
So lets get this straight. This adult (he's 18) who is ALREADY a convicted felon, takes a CONCEALLED gun into A SCHOOL ZONE. (ding ding, In hockey, thats a hat-trick)
-felon in possesion of a firearm
-concealled weapon
-school zone felony violation IN the school
I'm going to make a note to myself to follow this case and see what happens to the kind of person who law OUGHT to come down on, (this 18 year old convicted felon) compared to the (by news accounts) otherwise law-abiding citizen in pewaukee who didn't educate himself in the law.
This news story is the one guys like Mayor Barrett and Ed Flynn and ALL the other mamby pamby fear-mongering/sky-is-going-to-fall anti-gun talking heads need to take a hard look at. MAYBE they would realize that BAD GUYS ALREADY HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS. BAD GUYS ARE ALREADY FORBIDDEN TO HAVE GUNS. BAD GUYS DON'T OPEN CARRY. HELL, BAD GUYS DON'T EVEN BUY HOLSTERS, they "tuck it in their waistband"
Are you paying attention Mayor Barrett?
And its nice to see convicted felons with concealled weapons in a school zone get "called to the principles office" while Eddie Flynn promises to have his troops "take to the ground and disarm" law abiding citizens when he see's them.
Ed Flynn thinks law abiding citizens open-carrying deserve that kind of treatment but a felon carrying a concealled gun in school, they take him to the principles office FIRST and then call police?????
Mike
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Unfortunately the father chrged went **onto the grounds of the school**, and was just not in the zone outside the school - gun bans at schools are not likley to overtunred by courts on constitutonal grounds.
Unfortunately the father chrged went **onto the grounds of the school**, and was just not in the zone outside the school - gun bans at schools are not likley to overtunred by courts on constitutonal grounds.
LS16SpdZ99
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This is something that could take something so innocent and make you a felon imagine picking up you kid from school on the way up north on a hunting trip and have a truck load stuff and there are your guns.
Just imagine what would have happened if they didn't see the gun. I know it has been 18 years since i was in high school but if i got cought with a gun in school my dad would have broke both my hands. not to mention in a coma for a month, and now he is gonna blame it on the open carry and try to use that as an escape.
This is something that could take something so innocent and make you a felon imagine picking up you kid from school on the way up north on a hunting trip and have a truck load stuff and there are your guns.
Just imagine what would have happened if they didn't see the gun. I know it has been 18 years since i was in high school but if i got cought with a gun in school my dad would have broke both my hands. not to mention in a coma for a month, and now he is gonna blame it on the open carry and try to use that as an escape.
bnhcomputing
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Mike wrote:
In both cases here guys, you CAN have the firearms in the vehicle as long as they are unloaded and encased. If I have misread the law, please show me where.
Mike wrote:
LS16SpdZ99wrote:
In both cases here guys, you CAN have the firearms in the vehicle as long as they are unloaded and encased. If I have misread the law, please show me where.